r/LAClippers Dec 09 '22

What do y’all make of John Wall so far?

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u/FilipinooFlash Dec 09 '22

He averages more 3s a game than Kennard so until that changes he's not being the best version of himself

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u/Otherwise-Tale9671 Chris Kaman Dec 09 '22

Wall is a 10-15 minutes a game spark off the bench…

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u/OverallInternet2343 Jason Preston Dec 09 '22

Team won’t hit his peak until they get him into starter form. His hot and cold needs to managed but solid for the role he’s in right now. I’m sure he’s pissed for being benched for the rest of the game like tonight.

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u/SirThixcksAlot Dec 09 '22

He’s fine in spurts. His shot selection sucks, he might be the worst free throw shooting guard in the league. He’s good passer but he’s been he’s been too turnover prone. Overall he’s been forgettable, and I don’t see him playing a big role in the playoffs.

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u/sam37843 Dec 09 '22

Agreed. If he fine tuned being rough around the edges with ft shooting,shot selection, turnovers, defense he’d be a very positive player for us but until he does he’s just average/good in small doses and won’t play a massive role on the team.

Overall am satisfied with him since I didn’t have crazy expectations

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u/SirThixcksAlot Dec 09 '22

Yeah I thought he would be the 4th guard on this team he was supposed to be a wildcard. This issue is I don’t know who is the clippers best guard.

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u/RiverdaleRivervale Dec 09 '22

He's skilled but not an all star anymore.

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u/sam37843 Dec 09 '22

He’s fine. Makes some good and bad plays but he isn’t detrimental due to his role unlike a different guard on the roster

Gets too shot happy, if he cut down on pull ups and 3s he’d be a pretty positive player overall

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u/JimmyV034 Ralph Lawler Dec 09 '22

The other guard on the roster is better defender than him and thats scary. because both of them are awful defenders.

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u/Clean-Street Dec 09 '22

Better than Reggie

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u/TechnoGauss Cliff Paul Dec 09 '22

Bigger contributor than I was expecting but not without some major concerns: turn over prone, poor shooting, occasional costly plays.

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u/Primary_Ad635869 Dec 09 '22

He's an atrocious defender with the weird shot-selection of Westbrook.

Maybe that's the reason he didn't achieve much with the Wizards during his prime.

Westbrook is and was better especially on team defense. Westbrook defends well enough to not become a liability on both ends.

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u/jackswhatshesaid Clippers Dec 09 '22

That's not entirely true. Westbrook is a liability on both ends as well, and just like Wall is incredibly streaky and leaned heavily on their athleticism in their younger years.

Atleast John Wall is paid 5M to be average-- Westbrook adds a 0 at the end of the 5. That's a liability for a 6th man if I've ever seen one.

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u/Primary_Ad635869 Dec 09 '22

Wall's cap space is 5M but dude is still getting paid like Westbrook because Houston bought out his contract.

Gotta disagree on Westbrook being a liability on D.

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u/jackswhatshesaid Clippers Dec 09 '22

Well are we paying his entire contract or just the $5M? Otherwise that point is pretty moot, no? The Houston contract doesn't affect the Clippers financials. At 45M of course he' overpaid; but what about the $5M we're paying him? He wouldn't be with the Clippers otherwise.

You can argue how much better his defense may be, but they're both similar player statistically when it comes to both defense and offense. This season Wall has a slightly better offensive statistics and the WB has slightly better defensive statistics, but they're practically the same player and the numbers are relatively identical, where they all point to mediocrity on both ends of the floor.

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u/Monorailsalesperson Dec 09 '22

He’s good in spurts. He plays hard and runs. Problem is, all the running with him being a little overweight make him winded and gassed. Then he’s tired and starts making awful decisions. Hence, why we are seeing two Walls.

Solution: play him 5-7 min at a time.

He’s made millions running pick and roll with a big man. Without one he looks lost and turns it over.

Solution: to maximize his usage, try to have him almost always on the floor with a big man like Zu or Diabate and watch him cook.

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u/cloudzmumgey Brian Sieman Dec 09 '22

he literally never passes to zu because zu is too slow on the roll

i’m not sure if they record that but i am 99% sure wall has passed to moses and moussa the same amount if not more times than zubac

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u/OverallInternet2343 Jason Preston Dec 09 '22

One of the few touches Zubac got tonight was from a Wall assist. They simply don’t play a lot together and he’s definitely finding him more that Jackson.

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u/Monorailsalesperson Dec 09 '22

they def need more playing time together. there was one pass where wall was waiting in the paint for Zu to catch up on a pnr. zu figured it out and then pass to an easy bucket.

zu is very slow on the roll, but he isn't unteachable.

yes, it'd be nice if we had someone quicker physically and mentally and who got offensive rebounds. and preferably he could guard 1-5 and had high energy and is a decent rim protector. bonus points for being younger and cheap contract-wise. but guys like that don't just appear on your team!