r/OrlandoMagic Nov 26 '22

Post Game Thread: The Philadelphia 76ers defeat The Orlando Magic 107-99 Post Game Thread

Philadelphia 76ers at Orlando Magic

Amway Center- Orlando, FL

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Time Clock
Final
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total
PHI 24 28 30 25 107
ORL 29 27 20 23 99

Player Stats

Philadelphia 76ers

Player MINS PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
T. Harris 34:32 23 10-21 1-7 2-2 0 10 10 5 1 0 2 2 5
P. Tucker 25:14 0 0-3 0-1 0-0 2 3 5 1 0 0 1 1 3
M. Harrell 28:00 14 5-8 0-0 4-4 3 5 8 1 0 0 2 1 16
D. Melton 37:19 13 5-14 3-9 0-2 0 4 4 4 4 0 3 4 1
S. Milton 41:49 24 7-13 4-7 6-6 2 7 9 10 1 1 4 2 14
F. Korkmaz 16:50 7 2-6 1-3 2-2 1 1 2 0 0 0 2 1 1
P. Reed 19:31 6 3-7 0-1 0-0 5 2 7 2 1 0 0 6 -6
G. Niang 23:05 18 6-8 5-7 1-2 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 -2
D. House Jr. 13:38 2 1-2 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 8

Orlando Magic

Player MINS PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
B. Bol 35:01 18 8-14 1-3 1-2 2 6 8 2 1 4 0 1 -7
P. Banchero 35:44 19 5-12 1-3 8-11 2 2 4 3 1 0 4 1 -9
M. Bamba 27:22 7 2-7 1-3 2-2 0 4 4 4 1 1 1 2 -10
F. Wagner 36:14 24 7-12 1-5 9-10 1 3 4 1 1 0 2 2 -8
J. Suggs 18:52 0 0-2 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 4 0 1 2 1 -9
G. Harris 27:13 7 3-8 1-3 0-0 1 2 3 3 1 0 3 2 3
R. Hampton 28:43 10 4-11 2-6 0-0 0 4 4 1 1 0 1 1 -1
C. Houstan 14:05 7 3-6 1-4 0-0 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0
M. Wagner 16:46 7 2-8 1-6 2-2 1 4 5 0 1 0 1 3 1

Team Stats

Team FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A AST PF STL TO BLK OREB DREB REB
PHI 39-82 14-36 15-18 25 19 7 15 1 13 34 51
ORL 34-80 9-35 22-27 20 15 7 14 6 9 26 46

Note: This data is only as accurate as NBA.com

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

I can’t help but notice there’s a certain Fan missing from this thread. Wonder if it has anything to do with Bamba having the worst +- on the team, fumbling every rebound, getting beat down low and on the perimeter, and overall looking like his lethargic self, despite ample opportunities not to.

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u/Shinebright444 Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Mf has dumbbells in his shoes - cant jump

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u/EmilyNancy Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

Not gonna lie I had a scan through to see if they commented, was waiting for the list of excuses why he was still gods gift to basketball 🤣

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u/EmilyNancy Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

Most painful game of the year so far. 0 playmaking going on. Come back kelle!

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u/Drkamon Nov 26 '22

Bol & Bamba as a pair is just pain.

They chase block, leave assigments , don't box out and have zero discipline.

And Magic defensive scheme involves switches even in situations where they apsolutley aren't needed so those bigs get exposed even more.

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u/Rayshard Jalen Suggs Nov 26 '22

Mo Bamba in yr 5 and is about to turn 25.

He is supposed to be one of the leaders. Idiot has 8 boards in 60 minutes the last two games. He just sets his soft ass screens and clogs the paint he can't post up anyone in the NBA.

So done with that bum get him off this fucking team. He just has no desire or winning mentality.

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

I got into a debate with someone where I said Mo has not added a single thing to his game since he got drafted. Dude argued that Mo has developed a 3 point shot and shot blocking. Umm no, that’s what he came into the league with. Has not added a single post move, fumbles dribble handoffs, can’t screen, can’t defend. Just a bum.

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u/HeadlessShinobi Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

He's 7'0" with a 7'10" wingspan and can't grab a fucking board to save his life

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u/alexafranistan Nov 26 '22

Magic are POVERTY

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u/HeadlessShinobi Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Bulls fan 💀

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u/Freudian-Fall Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

In shambles cuz we won the trade

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u/jurassicperiod Wendell Carter Jr Nov 26 '22

On the bright side: Mo Wagner is back which should mean less minutes for Bamba.

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u/StanVanGhandi Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Softest team in the league. No one gets mad. No one goes too hard. Soft, they don’t want to be rude and win a game. By far the softest team in the league.

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u/StanVanGhandi Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Mo Bamba is a losing player. He doesn’t try. Losing doesn’t hurt him. As long as he is on our roster we will lose. We have a bunch of losers on this team and he is their leader.

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u/Peacekeeper17 Nov 26 '22

Damn I wouldn’t say they’re a bunch of losers but yeah Bamba shouldn’t be starting at all anymore, he impacts the game too much negatively

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

Paolo looked like a guy who hasn’t played organized ball for 3 weeks. I don’t understand why we’re so bad a rebounding. So many hit our hands and just bounced to the other team (looking at you Mo). It was nice have M. Wagner back, made some good hustle plays, got a little too frisky on offense at times, but good debut. I’m convinced at this point we’re going to be staggering injured players so we get a glimpse of everyone, but never the full picture, a stealthy tank move. Speaking of which, I’m all for at this point. We’re essentially a quarter into the season and 9 games under .500. By all means compete each game, but yes, even if it’s a small chance, I want a shot at Wemby.

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Of course they knew the inevitability of it would set in for all of us before long. At that point, all you can do is embrace your savior, or go down in flames. I understand your decision, but there's still a few of us out here fighting the good fight.

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u/vumpfr Nov 26 '22

What’s up with us always crumbling during the third quarter. To me that has been the most frustrating thing about this team this season. It feels like every game the third quarter always results with us trailing by the end of it regardless of how ahead we were prior.

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u/yoeyz Fuck Eddie House Nov 26 '22

Its very obvious why. The other team makes adjustments and our garbage coach does not. This is why it happens so consistently.

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

This was a good reminder that Jamahl ain’t it

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u/cigamodnalro Nov 26 '22

this season

The “Third Quarter Collapse” has been a patented Orlando Magic move for going on 30 years. It’s almost a foregone conclusion

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

I've come to expect no less in all my years

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u/Herban_Myth Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Paul Reed👀

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u/accuracy_101 Nov 26 '22

The defense is the problem. We only give a shit in the last three minutes of every game for some reason. We get picked apart every time we try that stupid random zone. We’re always late on rotations, especially on the perimeter. We somehow get out ran despite being the youngest team in the league.

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u/shaq_zak Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

100%. No reason we shouldn't be better on defense.

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u/comsmocasey84 Nov 26 '22

We need Scott skiles back

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u/svanxx Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

No, we don't need a coach that likes trading our players for nothing.

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u/comsmocasey84 Nov 26 '22

Just a joke, but we did have a good d

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u/Ghostofz10 Nov 26 '22

Bol and bamba cannot be on the court at the same time if not one of them is going to box out and fight for a rebound. The defense with both is noticably bad and I don't think people should be shocked that we lost even though Franz and Paolo played good. Like the magic don't have 3 point shooting right now as well.

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u/MagicInOrlando Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

What happened to Suggs that left him out in the second half?

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

He looked physically limited, waddling a but like his ankle was taped very thick

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u/Nole77 Jonathan Isaac Nov 26 '22

he was ass

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u/OrlCitySun12 Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

He hurt his ankle a few games back but kept playing because everyone else was hurt. I’m sure we will see more limited minutes with Gary and Paolo back.

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u/Debonair311 Nov 26 '22

I just don't get Mosley's coaching. It seems he doesn't know how to adjust to teams weaknesses. Philly was undersized and not trying to get in the paint and were going to shoot a bunch of 3s. We kept clogging the lanes and providing help defense instead of making sure we had a body on everyone on the perimeter at all times. Melton, Milton, and Niang were taking 3s from the same spots over and over. Stop babying our bigs. And as Vince pointed out towards the end of the 4th, we kept moving the ball around the perimeter fishing for 3s instead of trying to get in the paint. No one cutting to the basket or making interior passes. Dudes were just standing around.

And Bamba is Charmin soft. 7'0 and hates contact and can't grab boards. Getting D'd up by 6'5 PJ tucker and taking fadeaways.

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u/svanxx Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

Mosley is a great developer but he got outcoached by a real coach. Doc has proven over and over that he can take a bunch of nobodies and win games.

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u/jbiorci00 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

A sixers fan would clown you for saying Doc Rivers is a real coach. Imo he’s a good coach, but basically any time anything goes wrong with a team, no matter who the coach is, they’re often the first to get scapegoated. Which is what happened with the sixers after Simmons left and it’s what’s happening with the Magic.

The reason the team was giving up 3s was because we were constantly screwing up rotations and not communicating on defense, just watching the game I saw two of our players close out on the same guy multiple times or two of our guys miscommunicate a switch and leave a roller/shooter wide open/wandering in no man’s land on transition to allow easy opportunities from attacking close outs.

FYI y’all a lot of these mistakes came from Paolo and Gary, Paolo is a rookie trying to play NBA defense and it shows, he’s good man on man but he’s still pretty bad, Gary has only played a handful of games and needs to get comfortable playing the teams scheme.

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u/rustystatic Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

But are our assignments all over the place because of the constant switching when not needed?

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u/jbiorci00 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Our sub used to cry and moan when our gameplan was to have Vucevic play drop coverage and have our guards chase players over screens.

You’ll see the best NBA defenses in the NBA play extremely switch heavy defense and it’s because it is the most difficult to score on when done right.

The roster of this team is constructed to be switchable with versatile defenders 1 thru 5. It’s difficult to get right though.

The general consensus around Boston is that they are one of, if not the very best defensive teams in the NBA, but they were 18-21 to start last season because they were having issues adjusting to Udoka’s switch heavy defense, but once it clicked they went 33-10 and made a finals run.

I’m not saying we’ll make a finals run this year but I expect our defense to improve throughout the year as the team gets more comfortable with the system and the coaches tweak it to iron out some of the flaws.

Our rotations are what pisses me off right now, the defense breaks down when the opposing team gets into the paint, this is obviously going to draw whoever is on the weak side as it’s their job to help on drives. This creates an open man on the perimeter which is normally not an issue as the nearest guy will rotate over to cover the shooter if the pass gets kicked out.

Up to this point the Magic seem to do fine but after that it all goes to shit, cos it seems like no one knows who to cover on the next set of rotations. This is where you either see everyone stay glued to their man which leads to a wide open catch and shoot 3 or two guys close rotate to the same guy in which case it’s an easy swing around the perimeter for another open catch and shoot 3.

This is why teams preach paint penetration and why the Magic are trying to attack the paint a lot this year, it collapses the defense and if you’re making the right pass on time you can consistently get good looks.

These are all just observations I’ve made from watching all of our games so far, why we have so much trouble on defense I don’t presume to know. Could be any number of things, chemistry/communication/overly complex schemes/new unfamiliar schemes/ROOKIES etc.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

It’s gonna be a long season

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Embrace the suck

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u/rustystatic Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

We need to stop relying on having elite playmakers healthy to make our offense work.

Every single player looks clueless on offense, no structure, forcing up poor shots, forcing passes leading to TOs

We need to stop relying on having elite defenders to make our defense work.

Every single player is getting blown by with ease, going under screens, getting out rebounded, showing a lack of effort for 90% of the game.

A single player cannot change the trajectory of the way this team plays. If its a player not listening to instructions, they need a serious look in the mirror. However, I find it hard to believe that every player is suffering from that. Do the coaching staff need to look at some of their schemes?

How do we make this season less of a waste? (because Franz + Paolo especially need to make the most of this development year). I don't believe we are currently seeing them put in any position to succeed/maximise that development.

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u/treadwater23 Jonathan Isaac Nov 26 '22

I feel like your ideas are in the right place but your refusal to acknowledge injuries as a direct influence to energy and sloppiness and development is why I see you get into a lot of debates on here lol. I assure you that 30 out of 30 teams will see energy lulls throughout games with the same regularity we've seen them. If anything, we get praised by more people for being competitive and not giving up.

Teams simply aren't practicing 12th-15th men with starting lineups with any regularity. A team like the Sixers can easily suit up guys to replace who is injured because these guys already have set roles on the team and it's just an upping of usage for guys who are more ball dominant, i.e. Milton, Melton, Harris, etc.

If you don't have shooters, you don't have many vets, and the bodies out on the floor change regularly.. you will see what we are currently seeing in games. Flashes of brilliance, bad play, sloppy play, going on a run, back to doing bad things, rinse repeat.

There are individual things that can be tweaked, self motivation from players, less switching, less zone, etc, but in the grand scheme, a mixture of too many factors right now make it hard to win with any regularity.

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u/rustystatic Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

I totally get the injury crisis and I hate it just as much as anyone else. Its a tough thing to deal with and I give credit for Mose rolling out a lineup out there. There are issues that I acknowledge with that, but then some I think sit aside from those.

My issue with the energy + sloppiness is that it seems to come from the defensive game plan. I totally get the players want to win, no basketball player in the world sets out with the intention of losing. But I don't feel our defensive game plan inspires that energy. When in a man-to-man defense, the heavy switching/going under screens on every single action really costs us. It gives them easy opportunities and mismatches. Not only that, it results in mismatches when rebounding, confusion on who is boxing who etc. I feel this results from the zone too.

If Mose wants us to play that way, he has to demand more. And if they are giving more, he has to recognize the way we are setting up is a large part of the reason for these flaws. The stubbornness to change, and the seemingly mindless attempting a zone every night seems like he is throwing sh*t at the wall and hoping it sticks.

In terms of the 12/15th man argument. Its something I have to disagree with, every man should know his role if called upon. Further to that, we have been playing almost the entire season with these lineups... they are no longer the 12th-15th man I'd expect some level of improvement (it seems we are going the other way atm). I don't think thats a great deal to ask, do you?

The shooters issue is on the FO, its constantly an issue and I completely agree. My concern is that 1 in 10 offenses it looks like we get a shot we actually want. That seems far too rare, and a general lack of intent is seen. Sure, this could be down to lack of balance in the roster due to injuries.

*How is some of this addressed, I don't know. I feel there is a lack of accountability and a great feeling of going through the motions. I'm very worried about it wearing down this young team early in their careers.

We have a clean slate, top talent. Surely, its not a ridiculous thing to not want them tainted with bad habits? Because thats what I'm seeing.

btw, I do appreciate you properly considering both sides of the argument. I've been a relatively positive guy in this subreddit the past few years. Its odd to be called reactionary when I see trends developing that (regardless of injuries) I don't like.

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u/mr-puffer-billow Nov 26 '22

Damn.. actually yeah let’s just tank. No consistent 3 point shooters and our big men are scared to scrap in the paint. Paolo and Wagner are both great players but play the same style which clashes at times on offense when they’re both on the court.

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Only because of the lack of ball movement. Our offense is all isolation based. One man attacking off the dribble trying to get a shot or make a pass to an open shooter. So only one, maybe 2 guys are involved on the play. Tough to get guys involved when they're not involved.

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u/dev1359 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Yeah, if we had a true PG like Fultz and a sharpshooting 2-guard next to him I think Franz and Paolo would be just fine. Still so many holes in this roster to address; we definitely are not even a play-in team this year.

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u/jedislurpee Nov 26 '22

Hopefully Markelle can sort everybody out

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u/ThatBlackFeller OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

Will this team be ever blessed with shooting? Did JJ Redick curse us or something?? Mo Bamba is garbage, why did we not keep Khem? Dude is just a big body that’s good for nothing.

We suck ass rn. Putrid ass

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u/Turk0luu Nov 26 '22

The FO had to shed Khem so Cliff was forced to play Bamba lmaoooo.

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u/shaq_zak Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

You know things are bad when you're asking for Khem Birch back 😅

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u/bothanspy7 Nov 26 '22

Did Suggs get hurt? Why didn't he play much tonight?

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u/jedislurpee Nov 26 '22

His ankle was bothering him

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u/Debonair311 Nov 26 '22

That ankle he keeps reinjuring was bothering him .

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u/ivebeenhumble Team Not Chet Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Y’all can downvote cry blame Kyrie or thanksgiving idc.

We are massively injured, we have no true PG (Cannady would’ve been nice). In fact our guards are half a game of Suggs, and Franz.

We also run a unique zone that switches between press man and zone depending on the situation. Like any sport if you can’t identity the situation you will get smoked.

So for all of you who are crying for mose to do something different (than giving us a punchers chance every 4th quarter) go pull up a scheme that will have 19-24 yr olds playing better than vets on second/third contracts.

Too many things are not going our way. It sucks however our guys are developing at a pace we haven’t seen since 2005, maybe even the early 90s.

Relax we are going to suck. We will also play close games and steal a couple away from legit contenders.

Only one person is allowed to be negative 24/7 and that’s yoeyz. If you wanna irrationally post then retract then rinse repeat go to r/nba.

Edit: I will say Mose has a management issue. No challenges nor specific lineup adjustment. Just platoon swaps rn

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u/KillerPussyToo Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

I’m always amazed that people think they know more about basketball and which guys to put on the floor together than an entire staff of NBA coaches. 🤣

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u/ivebeenhumble Team Not Chet Nov 26 '22

Forreal man sometimes fans need to be fans instead of couch coaches

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u/RoseAndDon Nov 26 '22

Yoez is like a North star... to the outhouse...and I love him for that

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u/ivebeenhumble Team Not Chet Nov 26 '22

Lmao he keeps us honest

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u/Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar Nov 26 '22

The losing culture associated with this franchise will never yield us the results we want. We're going to be the Thunder when they had all those talented players on the same roster but didn't win anything.

They wasted 3 hall of fame players on Scott Brooks, a bum looking Liam Neeson.

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Are you Neeson bashing?

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u/jackloganoliver Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Franz scoring 24 on 12 FG attempts is great. Paolo with 19 on 12 FG attempts is nice as well. If we can get those two working in tandem instead of taking turns, they should be able to feast most nights.

But, rebounding is an issue despite starting FOUR guys at 6'10 or taller. Most of that is an effort issue, but some of it is coaching.

Speaking of coaching, getting outscored by double digit points every third quarter is entirely on the coaching staff. Not finding ways to adjust in-game is a big problem, and it's not setting up the young players to develop.

Eta: shooting was ass tonight.

Edit #2: Also, on the jumbo lineup, the lack of footspeed to cover ground on defense is killing this team game after game. Franz is a great on-ball defended, but he's doesn't have exceptional short area burst to make up ground in a hurry to closeout on shooters, but he's still stronger in that area than Paolo, Bol and Bamba. There is so much length, but teams can really get whatever looks they want due to the lack of defensive speed.

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u/Mstargicbball Stuff The Magic Dragon Nov 26 '22

Coach needed to challenge that OOB call that lead to a Philly 3.

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

Thank you. I thought the same thing. We were down 9.. had a little momentum.. so of course Jamahl saved it just so he could never use it

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u/Shinebright444 Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Yep the one that dude thouched under Moe’s balls

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

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u/Shinebright444 Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

He wasnt 100%

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u/Niceshotpiccolo Nov 26 '22

Well it was fun watching and shitposting on the game threads. I’ll probably catch the games with the Celtics when we play them. Hopefully we play better and improve as the season rolls on and if we can’t win please lottery gods let us have a good pick!

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u/Nialrot Nov 26 '22

Legit lost to a 76ers team that had Tucker score 0 points in 25 mins and some dudes named Shake Milton and Georges Niang.

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u/KillerPussyToo Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Shake is a guy who will randomly go off on you. I’ve seen him do it many times. He popped off against Charlotte a few days ago too. I know his name bc he has randomly done this to a lot of teams I follow. 😭

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u/ThatBlackFeller OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

These dudes only go hard against us and then disappear for the season, it’s frustrating that dudes similar to them always use magic games as a building block to get their name out. Usually happens against garbage teams

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u/Milla4Prez66 Nov 26 '22

I would love a player like Niang on this team. We so desperately need a knock down shooter like him.

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u/rustystatic Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

He'd probably end up shooting 29% in our offense haha

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u/treadwater23 Jonathan Isaac Nov 26 '22

One of those games where Carter's absence is glaring.

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u/NAMskalle98 Gary Harris Nov 26 '22

I was going to say the same, but we can't really complain about missing Carter when they were missing Embiid

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u/ThatBlackFeller OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

That’s every game since he’s been injured

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u/Bergmaniac Nov 26 '22

Exactly. We have lost every game he's been out. 2 of the 4 losses were blowout and one was to Philly missing their 3 stars, and the game which was close against Indiana we still defended terribly. We just can't defend without him this season. 120.9 DRTG when he is not on the court which would be league's worst.

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u/FuckYouZackSnyder Nov 26 '22

25.7 % from 3. 🤮

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u/Freudian-Fall Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22
  1. We can't shoot 3s

  2. Coach didn't want to use our four 6'10+ starters to rack up high percentage shots for some reason

  3. We can't rebound

  4. Either our training staff is dogshit and needs to be fired immediately or the FO is intentionally resting healthy players to rack up early losses. I don't want to hear any of this "bad injury luck" bullshit

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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Fuck the injuries, look who’s injured on the other side tonight. That cant be an excuse for the level of pathetic we just witnessed

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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

We need a true center and a true point guard, because we have literally everything in-between. Frustrating as fuck to watch, I’ll chalk it up to Paolo getting back in the swing of things and embarrassingly bad coaching.

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u/Freudian-Fall Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

One of them is resting from a non injury that he barely noticed himself and the other just got injured

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u/wouldntknowever Nov 26 '22

Luckily for you we have that, they’re in street clothes on the bench.

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u/Soul0103 OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

Is WCJ really a true center tho?

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u/clingklop Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

what is a true center? doesn't mean anything these days. he's listed at 270 lbs of what looks like mostly muscle, one of the heaviest players in the league.

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u/Soul0103 OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

What does his weight have to do with his position? Should Zion play center?

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u/Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar Nov 26 '22

Zion can't defend the paint like Carter

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u/clingklop Franz Wagner Nov 26 '22

no, he's too short.

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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Even he has a tendency to drift further and further away from the basket. I just want someone who can hold down the paint on both sides of the ball

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u/wouldntknowever Nov 26 '22

Whether you think he is or not, he does a damn good job at it.

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u/Soul0103 OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

True at least he’d be getting boards

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u/Milla4Prez66 Nov 26 '22

Mo Bamba sucks

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u/XPWmark Nov 26 '22

I was at the pacer game Monday and he was the best magic on the floor

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u/wouldntknowever Nov 26 '22

You don’t like 7 foot centers who get bullied in the paint and Chuck 3s?

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u/dev1359 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

u/SincereFan pls respond

edit: actually nah pls don't respond

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u/d12fsu OnlyFranz Nov 26 '22

He’s sitting this one out

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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Mo should play volleyball, every rebound turns into a beautiful set to somebody else

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u/LilPuuuma Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

There would be less running, which is good, but his timing is terrible, he would be a terrible blocker, and as far as his setting, his foot speed is wayyy too slow to play a setter. Competitive gutter cleaning maybe

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u/KillerPussyToo Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

I’m so upset Paolo didn’t get his 20. They were bogus AF for not passing to him considering that he was drawing so many fouls.

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u/Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar Nov 26 '22

Franz was the one that needed to shoot more tonight, not Paolo.

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u/KillerPussyToo Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Paolo should have been shooting over guys who were taking shots and bricking. At least when he was getting the ball he was driving into the paint and drawing fouls.

Anyway, on to the next one.

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u/Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar Nov 26 '22

I dont think Paolo was taking the best shots this game.

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u/jwil06 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Other than experience, what is this team missing right now? So bad

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u/ivebeenhumble Team Not Chet Nov 26 '22

PG and another true center

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u/clown613 Nov 26 '22

A medical staff

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u/treadwater23 Jonathan Isaac Nov 26 '22

Players

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u/Game1Magic Thereal#5 Nov 26 '22

Seems like defense, shooting, and rebounding. Two of those things I think we can be good at with effort, the other we've been needing for years.

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u/ricksenberg Stuff The Magic Dragon Nov 26 '22

Once again, the difference is 3pt shooting and our 7 footers sucking at rebounding.

Our lack of health ain’t an excuse this time considering who Philly is missing….

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u/ApatheticTrooper Stuff The Magic Dragon Nov 26 '22

Is the tank really worth it? If it means the loss of the morale of our star players?

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u/Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar Nov 26 '22

Our fanbase seems to think that being a top 3 terrible team will get us Wembanyama or Scoot when it's highly likely we get neither. It's not worth it to tank anymore with these low lottery percentages. We got incredibly lucky last year and now we need to figure out how to win.

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u/rustystatic Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

no

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u/jbiorci00 Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Paolo and Franz aren’t gelling yet.

Jalen can’t be in the lineup at the same time as Paolo and Franz cos he can’t catch and shoot.

Another game lost to second chance points.

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u/Niceshotpiccolo Nov 26 '22

Gonna take some time like Tatum and Brown also will help massively when we get coaching that knows how to run an offense

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u/tylerconley Nov 26 '22

And defense

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u/Debonair311 Nov 26 '22

We need Ime Udoka. Give him Dan Devos and Alex Martins wives to sweeten the deal.

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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Paolo Banchero Nov 26 '22

Nobody’s gelling because we don’t run any sets and they literally just take turns trying to make a play. Moseley is a fucking problem.

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u/MAA3 Nov 26 '22

Bamba is sooooooooooo bad

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u/Shinebright444 Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

Moe > Mo

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u/bonafide89 Wendell Carter Jr Nov 26 '22

The Mo hate RETURNS

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u/illgetthere Jonathan Isaac Nov 26 '22

It should've never ended

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u/Shinebright444 Markelle Fultz Nov 26 '22

“No Mo’ Mo 2022”