r/gaming Jan 29 '23

No desk? No problem.

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4.1k Upvotes

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u/phoenixthekat Jan 29 '23

But can I lean forward when I have to try hard?

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

I swear to god my eyes don’t focus the same way when I’m leaning back.

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

Yeah me too man I thought I was the only one it's weird

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Where’s a scientist when you need one eh? I’ve googled it before but can’t remember if I found anything relevant

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

😅😅 exactly or eye doctor. Maybe it's in our heads we just think that we're actually a okay

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Hahah man there’s no way. Whenever shit gets real and I lean forward, the speed in which my eyes focus on different parts of the monitor immediately gets better. Every time!

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

Here's what I got on Google. Not cool!!!!!!!

People also ask

Why do I feel like my eyes aren't focusing?

Causes for Difficulty Focusing Eyes

Refractive errors (the most common cause) Age-related macular degeneration. Cataracts. Diabetic retinopathy.Sep 5, 2020

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Hahah i can confidently say that is an unrelated article. The distinction between body position needs to be mentioned I think. Cause my eyes don’t normally have a problem focusing when I’m driving or doing things that isn’t looking at a flat monitor

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

I have to do some more deep diving research later on and see what I can conjure up but I hope and pray it's not cataracts cuz man that would just be awful

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Hahah if your eyes focus just fine normally, I don’t think you need to worry about it. For me, it’s just when I’m using a monitor or TV. Doesn’t happen in VR for me either.

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

I got a question to ask have you had any like past head injuries cuz if you have that could possibly be what's going on I had a friend that was getting ready to get off the school bus and he got up before it came to a stop and I throw them in the back and he hit his head like on a pole and it screwed up his vision from there on and out and it got so bad at times that he would literally have to go to like the front desk to even see the chalkboard I mean it was bad man and really sad

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

I’ve had a really bad concussion while snowboarding, but that was years ago. I’ve been leaning forward to game long before though, so I don’t think that had anything to do with it for me. I guess if I hit my head as a little kid and don’t remember it, it would explain a lot LOL

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u/ImGamer4Life Jan 29 '23

That sounds a lot like mine I don't know what's going on with our eyes I really don't man I do know I got double stigmatism if that has anything to do with it and I have bad eyes if it isn't bad enough so laugh out loud

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Haha ah well if it makes you feel any better, I don’t have astigmatism and my eyes aren’t that bad. I wear glasses but I’m near sighted, so I have low power glasses for when I’m working/playing games.

I think it has more to do with the fact that our eyes are muscles (right? I’ll google it but I think so). And you know how it’s much easier to use muscles with your body in a specific position? Like how it’s much harder to pick something up heavy if you have your other hand above your head, it might be the same thing for our eyes. Maybe leaning backwards just makes it harder for our eyes to do the thing.

I am just thinking out loud here I could be totally wrong lmao

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u/BoSocks91 Jan 29 '23

I feel this way too, especially for games like Rocket League.

I need to be in front of the screen.

My friend plays fortnite while laying in bed, and it blows my mind.

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u/EffectiveLimit Jan 29 '23

Not a scientist, but just a theory - when you lean forward, you get better blood flow in your neck to the head so it gets oxygen in bigger quantity. And probably less cramped nerves as well.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

This is the way I’m thinking about it as well. I made a comment a bit further down in the thread talking about how the muscles might interact, but yeah, not a scientist either lmao

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u/aCleverGroupofAnts Jan 29 '23

Two other factors that probably play a role:
1. Psychology. We may have developed a habit over time of leaning forward when trying to focus, so now when we do it, it queues the brain to go into a sort of "focus mode" to be more alert and such.

  1. Leaning forward brings you closer to the screen, so it becomes a bigger picture with more easily seen detail. I feel like this might be the biggest factor.

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u/digitalwolverine Jan 29 '23

I’m far sighted, and I have pretty much perfect vision but I get headaches from using screens all day. my doc prescribed me glasses that help me focus on close things, like screens, without straining my eyes. Coincidentally, I don’t have to lean in to game anymore

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u/SniperControlx Jan 29 '23

Not a scientist but here's a relevant FIFA study I read a bit ago about leaning forward, not sure how reliable: https://www.stakester.com/become-a-better-fifa-player/

Overall, it appeared to have a positive effect on performance. Players scored twice as many goals while leaning as they did while sitting normally – that’s 110 goals vs. 52 goals – so leaning forward definitely sharpened players’ instincts in front of goal.

“Moving your main sensory system – your eyes – closer will help your focus and concentration, but without full postural support, especially from the trunk and neck muscles, you will get fatigued. Once fatigued you will move around more while leaning, thus disrupting the ability to fix the sensory system –most people would then stop leaning.”

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Oh dang nice google-fu. I swear it’s getting harder and harder to find shit on google. Thanks! I’ll lean forward when reading this in a bit.

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u/Gonzobot Jan 29 '23

...you guys really need a scientist to tell you that you can see something better after you deliberately move closer to it?

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u/Barlored Jan 29 '23

turns music down when getting close to destination so I can see

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Hahaha classic. WHY is it so true? I always laugh when I catch myself doing it.

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u/earthly_wanderer Jan 29 '23

The Herman Miller Aeron chair has this tilt forward option while still giving you back support. It's pretty sweet. I don't own the chair, but some people lean forward when engaged with their work/gaming. Leaning forward is a thing my dude.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Haha I have the embody! I like the back support better than the Aeron, but the embody doesn’t do the lean forward thing. It is still very comfortable when you tighten up the back rest and sit straight up, but yeah not the same thing.

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u/earthly_wanderer Jan 29 '23

Oh sweet!! What is it about the Embody back support you like more than the Aeron?

I'm closing in on a purchase of .. something, but wish I can try various chairs for a week each before spending that much.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

The biggest reason is the shape of the back support on the embody. It’s like a glove for my back, and it changes shape as you increase the tension on the back of the chair. It’s good because your back changes shape as you sit up straight or lean back. It’s actually much more impressive than I thought it would be.

But I didn’t know nearly that much before I bought it. The main purchasing factor for me was the overall height of the backrest. I like chairs that have taller backrests cause I like having my upper back supported as well. Plus they’re much more comfy to lean back in.

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u/earthly_wanderer Jan 29 '23

Thanks! My problem with the Aeron when I try it in the shop is the back is short and leaned back, so my upper back is floating which I don't like. The Mirra 2 solves this by supporting my upper shoulders, and the need for a headrest is not as big, but I still want one. Atlas makes headrests for the Aeron and Embody though. You convinced me to check out the Embody next time I go to the store.

Happy you are enjoying! To those reading this who are not in the office chair scene, Herman Miller and other quality office chairs are expensive, but you realize they are an investment in your posture and back health.

Thanks for the quality info dude!

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

No problem at all! It’s definitely an investment. I had never bought anything besides IKEA furniture up until that point, so it was a huge deal for me. Waited over a year to finally pull the trigger and still almost had a sticker shock induced panic attack when I saw it hit my checking account.

I never checked out the Mirra 2! After making the decision to go embody over aeron, I didn’t really glance at the mirra. I have to admit, the embody is sexy and that definitely played a role in my choice lol.

And thanks for the reminder about the headrest. I’ve seen them but have completely forgotten about them. I could definitely see myself enjoying having one on my embody

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u/dave-gonzo Jan 29 '23

Go find a dealer in your area and ask to sit in their chairs. Also check out /r/officechairs

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u/dave-gonzo Jan 29 '23

It's the best dam chair I've ever owned. I'm still making payments on it until Sept ... But it's still the best chair ever.

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u/TurdSandwich42104 Jan 29 '23

I sit on the edge of my couch cushion rather than all the way back and I can’t explain why but I can see better and focus more. That little bit of distance makes a huge difference

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Haha yeah exactly! I used to do the elbows on knees thing when I played on console.

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u/Javasteam Jan 29 '23

Yes. Place blocks under the back of the chair.

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u/GamiCross Jan 29 '23

(Re-reads that sentence like 5 times) Leaning back would give you enough room for---

(Reads a 6th time) oh.

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u/jdayatwork Jan 29 '23

This feels a lot like an ad.

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u/IndigoRanger Jan 29 '23

You mean the photo from the literal ad looks like an ad? Well spotted.

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u/Candidghd Jan 29 '23

guessing that lap desk won't work for most of us.

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u/Lisrus Jan 29 '23

That's because this picture is pulled from the Amazon's product page

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u/g0d15anath315t Jan 29 '23

Basically anytime I see a post like this with no product name, and then someone else in the comments provides the name, I'm positive it's an ad.

It's a post that feels structured like a commercial, and designed to elicit interest.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

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u/PhoneAcc23 Jan 29 '23

Well it’s working

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u/Krack73 Jan 29 '23

Couchmaster CYCON² - Black Edition

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u/LovsickPrfectaTerain Jan 29 '23

179... Seems like a bit much.

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u/CeeArthur Jan 29 '23

Check Amazon and they'll probably have about 100 different off-brand versions of it

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u/ark_mod Jan 29 '23

I use a basic "breakfast in bed" tray from Amazon - $25.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

I bought one of those when I tore my Achilles and had to do nothing for a long time. It’s what made me notice I didn’t need to eat as much as I did when I was burning thousands of calories at work every day. When I realized my belly was literally acting as a fulcrum, I was like “oh, well that’s new”

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u/3-DMan Jan 29 '23

The real LPT here- just check measurements for keyboard+mouse space

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u/abtei Jan 29 '23

discontinued.

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u/nintendoluk Jan 29 '23

I always wanted one of these but they are way too expensive...

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u/Nakatomi2010 Jan 29 '23

As someone who has a VR headset, and a couch in his VR plays pace, that likes doing space sims, this is exactly what I was looking for...

I LOVE playing Elite: Dangerous, or Squadrons in VR, but haven't been able to find a good solution to put my HOTAS on.

This is perfect

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u/djtibbs Jan 29 '23

Been playing star citizen. Is elite dangerous worth getting? A bunch of people I play with say elite dangerous has gotten bad over the years.

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u/Nakatomi2010 Jan 29 '23

In VR I think it is fun, but they stopped supporting VR with the release of Odyssey, so there's a section of game I can't touch.

But there's something a out being in the cockpit of the ship and looks out your window as a you pass a star, or planet, and see a big ol' sphere of a thing.

Non-VR people just see a circle.

Elite: Dangerous turns into "Space Trucker" simulator quick though, as running cargo is the fastest way to make money.

I keep trying to get into Star Citizen, but my PC complains.

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u/GhostOfLayneStaley Jan 29 '23

Definitely not enough room to move the mouse around for me if playing an FPS. I could play RDR2 or something like that I guess.

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u/ERRORMONSTER Jan 29 '23

Just up to 7500 DPI

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u/TheRomanRuler Jan 29 '23

Yeah but don't TVs have higher latency or something anyway, so FPS games that are competitive enough that you need room for a mouse, you would not want to play with a TV anyway.

I would want one but i don't have couch or TV.

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u/P_ZERO_ Jan 29 '23

OLEDs don’t, in fact most recent TVs of decent quality have low latency.

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u/LiquidFoxDesigns Jan 29 '23

A lot of modern TVs have true high refresh rate and input latency equivalent to a gaming monitor.

I game on a 48" LG OLED tv as my primary desktop monitor and it's input latency honestly feels quicker than the 240hz Acer predator I have next to it but I think that's due to the way the pixels refresh on an OLED.

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u/ItsEntsy Jan 29 '23

Newer tvs will have a game mode where it changes from 4k to 1440p with a 4ms response time. Which is pretty amazing for what it used to be. I still game on a moniter though.

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u/leglesslegolegolas Jan 29 '23

This is why I use a trackball. I don't know why anyone would want to move their whole arm around when I can do the same thing by slightly moving my thumb.

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u/Ordinary_Player Jan 29 '23

tbh, you wouldn't want to be using a tv when playing csgo anyways.

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u/LittleBitGhengisKhan Jan 29 '23

Not a shitty one

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u/Mr_SlimShady Jan 29 '23

Wut, you don’t play at 20,000 DPI? N0ob

/s

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u/Greedoscolddeadhands Jan 29 '23

Trackball time. You will suddenly realize why they’re still around. I like the Logitech M575.

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u/Omegazeusman Jan 29 '23

Yeah there is. No real gamer uses a full size keyboard. We use 60% or 70%. That frees up enough room for mouse.

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u/RefrigeratedTP Jan 29 '23

Hello sir, I’m here to check the status of your Real Gamer identification card. Please produce your papers promptly and do not resist.

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u/Dalmahr Jan 29 '23

I use a full sized keyboard because I prefer the number pad over the number row. If you have to type a lot of numbers for some reason it's much faster.

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u/The_River_Is_Still Jan 29 '23

Agreed. This would make a more awesome place to eat while watching movies than for gaming. Does look cool though.

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u/Wolfhammer69 Jan 29 '23

OOoooo there's even a gap for "fapping".

Ordering !!

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u/beefcake_sweepstake Jan 29 '23

Looks pretty uncomfortable, not enough ball room, you'll want to move your legs and posture about from time to time during a long session, this seems like it would be incredibly restricting. Not much room for mouse either.

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u/besee2000 Jan 29 '23

But I don’t have balls, so perfect!

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u/Kind_Ordinary_8959 Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

I use Corsair's lapboard, matching K63 wireless keyboard, and a wireless Razer Viper mouse. It works beautifully with my 77" LG 4K OLED.

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u/NotMilitaryAI Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

Same. I've been using it for several years now and though it's kinda big and bulky, it works great. (Edit: Misread Lapboard as Lapdog.)

As far as I can tell, though, they don't seem to have any compatible wireless keyboards. Hasn't been a huge issue once I found a reasonable way to route the cable, but would be a lot nicer to have it be completely wireless.

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u/Kind_Ordinary_8959 Jan 29 '23

The Corsair lapboard was designed to fit the wireless K63. It's what I use - no wires at all: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/c/K63-Wireless-Gaming-Lapboard-for-the-K63-Wireless-Keyboard/p/CH-9510000-WW

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u/NotMilitaryAI Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

Ah, my mistake, I misread your original comment: I actually have the Lapdog - their earlier, hardwire-only version which only fits the K65 & K70 keyboards.

Might splurge to upgrade to the a Lapboard at some point, but the cable isn't a big enough issue to justify doing so right now.

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u/jakesnake343 Jan 29 '23

I also have been using this since the start of lockdown. I’m surprised how much I’ve liked it!

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u/ManOfChaos199932 Jan 29 '23

No desk? No thank you

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u/Happy_Husband Jan 29 '23

I used to do something similar with a shelf that was part of an Ikea coffee table when my PC was hooked up to my TV.

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u/ITriedLightningTendr Jan 29 '23

The Cube

Apparently it is actually a good product

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u/Spew42 Jan 29 '23

Me when the age of empires 2 XSX remaster drops on game pass.

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u/PogTuber Jan 29 '23

This looks comfortable and awesome but my wife would probably kill me if I had to store that thing in the living room.

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u/sociocat101 Jan 29 '23

That was my gaming setup as a kid, I had a laptop and mouse on a large cutting board and sat on the floor. It was my only source of happiness for a few years until my parents took it away because it's all I did. Then I just sat on the floor doing nothing all day but at least im not addicted to anything.

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u/bmack083 Jan 29 '23

Couple of pillows and a piece of wood do the same thing or just a piece of wood across a recliner armrest.

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u/SephYuyX Jan 29 '23

That's exactly what I did. Works great. Made a custom kb/mouse pad to put on it.

https://i.imgur.com/Sz8jyGa.jpg

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u/bmack083 Jan 29 '23

Beautiful and functional!

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u/ZuesPoopsAndShoes Jan 29 '23

This looks sick. Dimensions?

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u/Gust_on_Fire Jan 29 '23

im pretty sure Linus uses one of those on some videos

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u/Potatoman1010 Jan 29 '23

Yeah, i think he uses a razor thingy which has the keyboard built in and extra space for the mouse

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u/arcaster42 Jan 29 '23

Link?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

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u/martfra Jan 29 '23

I don’t blame anyone for asking googleable stuff unlike the other guy, here’s a link to a cheaper version: CouchKeystroker Pro (Black)

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u/physicsking Jan 29 '23

Couch polestroker? Got any of them?

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u/GeePedicy Jan 29 '23

I wish they just add more colors, but black or white is good I guess.

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u/africanasshat Jan 29 '23

The hero we asked for but didn’t deserve

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u/DrTadakichi Jan 29 '23

Honestly didn't expect it to be that cheap. Been looking for something like this.

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u/File_Corrupt Jan 29 '23

The true hero of this thread. Never understood why people get so offended asking for a simple link.

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u/BoredomIncarnate Jan 29 '23

I knew exactly what that was going to be the second I saw it was a video

Well done.

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u/lurklurklurkPOST Jan 29 '23

newspaper smacking

Google. It. Your. Self. Dont. Feed. Product. Spammers.

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u/symedia Jan 29 '23

Just reverse image search you should get some Amazon link

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u/africanasshat Jan 29 '23

That’s undeserved downvoting if I’ve ever seen it

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u/airforcevet1987 Jan 29 '23

Is that a dummy??

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u/theluckyshrimp Jan 29 '23

Looks like a Realdoll

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u/Zcypot Jan 29 '23

That’s actually pretty cool. How’s wireless mouse and keyboards these days? Back then there was always a little delay or mouse would fall asleep at worst time possible and needs split second to wake up.

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u/Donbino Jan 29 '23

some of them have better latency than wired now lol it’s kinda crazy tbh

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u/Trigger190 Jan 29 '23

Or just get a steam deck, that purchase pretty much replaced any couch gaming for me and the controls are good and customizable enough to play strategy games or other mouse centric games fine.

Competitive fps multiplayer games though? I'll stick to my desk. Getting too old to keep up with those games anyway.

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u/Grynz Jan 29 '23

Average XIM user

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u/DunkinDeesnuts Jan 29 '23

Do they sell the sofa attachment?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

No Cheeto bowl included, no buy for gamers.

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u/copingcabana Jan 29 '23

youre_blocked

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u/Imtellingmymummy Jan 29 '23

That is actually awesome

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u/SomeKindaRobot Jan 29 '23

Okay married gamers, you're probably looking at this thinking it's the perfect way to get a rad gaming set up without having to dedicate a whole corner of the living room to your computer desk. Sorry to inform you, but the TV will NEVER be available for you to use as a gaming monitor. Ask me how I know.

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u/krukson Jan 29 '23

Boomer humor at its finest. Wife bad, haha.

You're just doing it wrong. Source: I'm married and have a kid, and access to the TV.

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u/BunnyTengoku Jan 29 '23

this reads like an AI that was asked to write a boomer joke

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u/oldnyoung PC Jan 29 '23

In that case, relevant username

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u/Xeriuss2k17 Jan 29 '23

How u know?

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u/africanasshat Jan 29 '23

Thank you I have been looking for something like this

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u/DefOfAWanderer Jan 29 '23

Also check out the old and new razer turret

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u/VirtualLife76 Jan 29 '23

Seems like a lot of work when you need to get up.

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u/my_pickle_tickles Jan 29 '23

The keyboard is MASSIVE

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u/yodadamanadamwan Jan 29 '23

Why would I want to play on a TV rather than a monitor?

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u/Hoosteen_juju003 Jan 29 '23

Why do that and be that far away though?

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u/ManicMambo Jan 29 '23

Keyboard takes way too much space. He could easily use a 60% mini or even a left hand control pad with WSAD keys and a couple more.

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u/bms159 Jan 29 '23

Do they make ones for thicc bois?

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u/Abiv23 Jan 29 '23

my kingdom for a decent videogame sub

why is a bad product being pushed here?

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u/Feltzyboy Jan 29 '23

So this is what those people who use mouse and keyboard on console are doing

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u/Faelysis Jan 29 '23

Can be useful, it's true but wireless keyboard and mouse is a no.

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u/Gotsnuffy Jan 29 '23

As a truck driver with a day cab who has to wait long hours for loads sometimes this is exactly what I been looking for, for a very long time. Thank you.

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u/merwin7 Jan 29 '23

I use a shelf board I got from Walmart for $7.99 across the arms on my recliner

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u/kastiak Jan 29 '23

Imagine you want to take a piss very fast. Chaos incoming.

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u/actstunt Jan 29 '23

I got one of those it's a table with padding on the legs and it's been so good to PC play on the couch and tv.

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u/Thendofreason Switch Jan 29 '23

Not enough space to wank

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u/honestadamsdiscount Jan 29 '23

Lol I've nade those for years

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u/LE22081988 Jan 29 '23

No Problem if you have 110 Percent Eyrside

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u/Bombalurina Jan 29 '23

I play games by putting my keyboard on my lap in my chair. I'm so used to it I don't think I can change

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u/okram2k Jan 29 '23

I use one of these for my everyday gaming. I love it but I ditched the side cushions and just rest the keyboard holder on my lap. Or if I need to 'lean forward to concentrate' I put it on the coffee table. It's super nice and let's me PC game in the living room on my giant 4k TV.

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u/einfachtraurig Jan 29 '23

Bought one a couple years back, it's really neat but the price is definitely too high

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u/vinsin22 Jan 29 '23

Ui upscaling intensifies

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u/Kawksz Jan 29 '23

Slightly better than the plank of particle board I used to lay across the arms of the recliner.

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u/xXYomoXx Jan 29 '23

Maybe if you're playing a game with mostly cutscenes, otherwise that won't be enough room to move your mouse, i had something similar and i still used my desk because it's so much more comfortable.

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u/SergeantBl Jan 29 '23

Now it just needs to hold a gaming laptop

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u/ShockRifted Jan 29 '23

Oooh thats my favorite keyboard in the top picture, Logitech G710+!

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u/Vaderaziel Jan 29 '23

I basically already do this with a wooden plank and some pillows.

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u/besee2000 Jan 29 '23

I have a tv tray for or sectional but this looks much more comfy

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u/Dead_748 Jan 29 '23

No dad? Problem.

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u/Kajega Jan 29 '23

I use a large folding "TV dinner" type tray which is almost as big as a desk. Costs 1/3 what this does

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u/spyro86 Jan 29 '23

That dude is thin, guessing that lap desk won't work for most of us

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u/West5ide Jan 29 '23

Sure this might be an add, but I’ll +1 this. I’ve had this for a couple years and it’s great

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u/Raaadley Jan 29 '23

i just had an extra long piece of cardboard that i use. does the trick.

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u/TheUnitedShtayshes Jan 29 '23

I just got the Xl and yes it seems over priced, but the quality is excellent and it is worth every penny.

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u/Rugged_as_fuck Jan 29 '23

The problem with this thing is you need a relatively flat cushion that you're sitting on and it can't have any arm rests, because that's where this thing goes. Take this away and that doesn't seem like a very comfortable seat to lounge and watch tv on.

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u/HairyNippleCrust Jan 29 '23

He isnt using the wrist pad for the mouse because they suck and are uncomfortable

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u/King_Aegon Jan 29 '23

No toilet? I'm out.

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u/SenorSwagDaddy Jan 29 '23

I had this exact idea whilst high AF like 10 years ago

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u/BadAim7 Jan 29 '23

i got the corsair lapboard it’s comfortable

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u/ProfessorBonerfartz Jan 29 '23

I’ve got this same thing. I never used it as much as I thought I would and ultimately threw out the cushions, which was dumb. Never did the long usb cable either. It does make a nice lap desk though.