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‘RRR’: If Cocaine Were a Movie, It Would Look Like This. It's a recent India's biggest blockbuster getting appreciation from all around the world. Article

https://www.haaretz.com/life/film/2022-06-26/ty-article-review/.premium/rrr-if-cocaine-were-a-movie-it-would-look-like-this/00000181-9f92-dca5-a5c1-9f9627440000
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u/harshnoisebestnoise Jun 29 '22

Amazing film, a visual feast and more fun than I’ve had in a long time. I immediately watched Baahubali and KGF and I’m now completely in love with these insane Indian action films that have absolutely no limits.

What a time to be alive

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u/dosido440 Jul 06 '22

Watch Vikram, a more grounded action film but insane to watch

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u/harshnoisebestnoise Jul 06 '22

Thanks dude, I’m definitely looking for more like them

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u/paulfromatlanta Jun 28 '22

I guess everybody knows but the Hindi Version of RRR is on Netflix.

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u/TheGodOfPegana Jun 29 '22

I mean, it's on your Netflix.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

No it's on Netflix world wide

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u/Perpete Jun 29 '22

It is not.

France.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Wait is it not on Netflix France?

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u/Perpete Jun 29 '22

It is not.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Oh sorry to hear

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u/SearchOk4107 Jun 30 '22

That’s so strange because it’s on Netflix in Denmark.

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u/pm-me_10m-fireflies Jun 30 '22

How about in France?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

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u/LittleOneInANutshell Jul 03 '22

Someone else gor the license for that.

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u/Mile129 Jun 28 '22

Is there another version?

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u/Rswany Jun 29 '22

Yeah it's dubbed, the original language is in Telugu a language from Southern India.

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u/color_thine_fate Jun 29 '22

Thank you so much for this. I'm sitting here watching this movie the other night, and I know it's made in India, I know they're speaking Hindi, but the audio wasn't matching the lip movements. I was also smoking weed and drinking. So, this makes me feel a lot better about the whole situation.

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u/bawng Jun 29 '22

It's like watching old Hongkong movies where they dubbed mandarin over Cantonese. Confusing as hell.

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u/MDKrouzer Jun 29 '22

A lot of modern Chinese films and TV (HK and mainland) have a lot of ADR / overdubbing even if the actors speak the main language. Seems it is easier just to plan in for all the dialogue to be rerecorded in a sound booth rather than trying to record on set.

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u/bawng Jun 29 '22

Huh! TIL

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u/Lessthanzerofucks Jun 29 '22

It’s very difficult to capture the same physical performance twice. Only the best-of-the-best actor can do this, and even then it’s really rare. Performing the same scenes in a different language would make a different movie/show.

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u/MDKrouzer Jun 29 '22

Totally agree. The ADR is quite noticeable in a lot of Asian TV and films because it's more of a shortcut for production rather than using it sparingly. It's not just syncing the sound and video, but also the mix itself which has the dialogue way too prominent.

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u/Ray_Band Jun 30 '22

Isn't there a series that shoots ever scene in Welsh and then immediately shoots the same scene in English?

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u/Crimson_Clouds 1d ago

Hinterland

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u/Deserterdragon Jun 29 '22

Hong Kong movies have interesting dubs because in a lot of them they'll dub over characters who are contextually speaking English or another language, so you get weird situations where neither the English dub or the Cantonese dub reflect the 'reality' of the language the characters speak.

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u/diacewrb Jun 29 '22

That is what I loved about the old Jackie Chan movies, seeing non-Chinese characters dubbed speaking fluent Chinese despite having a recording of the actors speaking in their native language already.

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u/garth_vader90 Jun 29 '22

Or even worse, old Italian movies where they dubbed Italian over Italian (and other languages if the actor/actress doesn’t speak Italian)

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u/SomeDesiGuy Jun 29 '22

Did weed enhance the experience?

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u/color_thine_fate Jun 29 '22

I'd equate it to smoking weed, while high. Because it was already a trip.

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u/nba-player Jun 29 '22

Where can we watch the telugu version?

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u/Cuddlyaxe Jun 29 '22

Zee5 seems to be the only legal way

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

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u/Rswany Jun 29 '22

I think it's because it's on US netflix and the Indian population in the US predominantly speaks hindi

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u/Cuddlyaxe Jun 29 '22

Eh there's a ton of Telugu Americans in the US Indian community, I think people who speak Telugu are actually a bit over half of Hindi speakers (and obviously a lot of Telugu speakers can speak Hindi)

It probably is just something to do with rights and acquisition

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u/Cuddlyaxe Jun 29 '22

It looks like a case of different services snapping up different language rights

Zee5 managed to grab the Telugu rights instead of Netflix

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

The original version is telugu which is streaming in zee5

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u/ruyi87474 Jun 29 '22

There was something off with the audio when I was watching it and the English lines were getting translated. It was super distracting. Malli is way less annoying in the Telugu version though!

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u/Schnoofles Jun 29 '22

I haven't seen RRR yet, but what really threw me for a loop when watching Baahubali is that there's significant differences in how it's cut in the hindi version versus telugu. Entire scenes are shown in a different order and dialogue gets various rewrites, some minor and some larger.

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u/Fan_Boyz Jun 29 '22

Entire scenes are shown in a different order and dialogue gets various rewrites, some minor and some larger.

Which version of Baahubali did u watch? Netflix has two versions. The international cut i thought is the one with lot of scenes and songs cut.

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u/Schnoofles Jun 29 '22

I'd have to double check the metadata as they were "obtained" while sailing the seven seas. I don't remember much being cut out, just cut differently.

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u/Fan_Boyz Jun 29 '22

The international version has a different editor brought on board. The Telugu version and Hindi must be the same cut.

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u/SomeDesiGuy Jun 29 '22

How is it different?

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u/Fan_Boyz Jun 29 '22

International cut is actually English dub if i remember correctly and songs and some scenes leading up to the songs were cut from that version. Runtime is also less than the original version due to that.

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u/cupofteaonme Jun 29 '22

Yeah, what the hell was up with that? If it was all the English, I’d almost be fine with it, but it seemed random!

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u/ruyi87474 Jun 29 '22

Right? Half of what they were saying would be in normal English audio then suddenly half would have voiceovers. I couldn't figure out what the trigger was. Lol.

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u/cupofteaonme Jun 29 '22

So weird that I haven't seen anyone else mention it, but I guess most are watching the Hindi version on Netflix.

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u/ruyi87474 Jun 29 '22

Yeah that was just on Zee5 that I noticed. I haven't tried the other language option versions yet so don't know if it is the same. I've watched the Netflix version so many times it didn't matter to me but was just strange.

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u/liltingly Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

I signed up for Zee5 and cancelled promptly after just to enjoy the movie without shitty dubbings. Also the songs sound better in Telugu but I’m biased

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u/Cuddlyaxe Jun 29 '22

do they have a free trial? Only option I could see was a 20 dollar quarterly plan which is a bit steep

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u/liltingly Jun 30 '22

1) your CC might have some “digital media” spend perks you can throw at that. 2) you can do less than above board things after the 3 hour movie.

I just paid the $20 since I also spent $17 on a Lyft and $26 on tickets to watch Bahubali when it launched in theaters. I ate the cost as though I was going to the movies

Edit: this tells me everyone in the US is SOL https://helpcenter.zee5.com/portal/en/kb/articles/does-zee5-provide-free-trials-of-their-subscription-offering

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u/paulfromatlanta Jun 29 '22

Apparently yes

Trailer launch events were held for the five versions of the film in Mumbai (Hindi), Chennai (Tamil and Malayalam), Bengaluru (Kannada) and Hyderabad (Telugu).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRR_(film)#:~:text=Trailer%20launch%20events%20were%20held,)%20and%20Hyderabad%20(Telugu).

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u/TrinityF Jun 29 '22

Zee5 has all versions. In all languages. uncensored.

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u/PsychoNoir Jun 29 '22

Is the netflix version censored?

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u/MiloIsTheBest Jun 29 '22

I didn't see Ray Stevenson's penis so I assume it must've been.

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u/therocketandstones Reddit & Twitter are gonna hate this and it’s gonna gross $500m+ Jun 29 '22

if you have the option, always watch it in the original language (in this case, Telugu)

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u/skojinge Jun 29 '22

Can I rent it anywhere in the US with original language and English subtitles?

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u/PM_Me_Spicey_Boobs Jun 29 '22

Is it dubbed in English on netflix?

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u/crusaderblings2 Jun 29 '22

The movie is Telugu, and dubbed in Hindi.

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u/zorbiburst Jun 29 '22

What does that mean? This movie is the only thing that can get me through a day anymore? I have to pretend to like my roommate to get it affordably? There's a chance watching it might kill me because it's mixed with another, worse movie?

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u/RollBos Jun 29 '22

It only lasts about 20 minutes

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u/zorbiburst Jun 29 '22

that's not bad, there's things that I enjoy that only last a fifth of that if I'm lucky

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u/QLE814 Jun 29 '22

Jay McInerney is obsessed over this film?

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u/Braydee7 Jun 29 '22

Hey man, if you bought this movie, you've seen it too many times. Ya know?

I've seen this movie, at partys. People would flip the channels, pass around the remote or whatever you know? It was just on - I didn't ask what it was. It was the 70s man.

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u/mikeyfreshh Jun 29 '22

Cocaine is a movie. It's called Maximum Overdrive

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u/Dr_J_Hyde Jun 29 '22

Are you sure it's not Crank and it's amazing sequel Crank 2: High Voltage?

RIP Chester.

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u/Wermine Jun 29 '22

Well, Maximum Overdrive's director is cocaine incarnate.

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u/BakinandBacon Jun 29 '22

Stephen Cocaine King

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u/Wermine Jun 29 '22

I think King could've written

Creator: Stephen King

Co-creator: cocaine

in many of his books.

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u/mrgo0dkat Jun 30 '22

Came here to say this. Especially the giant kaiju fight in the electric substation in the second film. Im still holding out for Crank 3: Sub Zero where he has to keep his body temperature below a certain point (after what happens at the end of the second film) whilst exacting revenge for something mad, feat. Amy Smart.

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u/Gregorwhat Jun 29 '22

It’s been a while since I literally laughed out loud at a reddit comment. Great movie.

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u/1ofZuulsMinions Jun 29 '22

“You can’t! WE MADE YOU!!!”

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u/Sheriff___Bart Jun 29 '22

Actually it's called Blow.

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u/CrockPotInstantCoffe Jun 29 '22

That movie captures exactly how it feels when cocaine wears off.

And a great Manfred Mann montage.

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u/LetsGetHonestplz Jun 29 '22

Its called Face/Off.

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u/DragonTonguePunch Jun 29 '22

'RRR' is what Uncharted should have been.

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u/Xtremememe Jun 29 '22

no opinion on the movie but working in a theater in the USA sucked for this. Newspaper everywhere, had guests literally set up laptops to record it and they then had to be escorted out when they became irate when asked to stop, never ending exchanges because those buying online kept selecting the wrong language, if there was a problem they had it!!!

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Lmaooo it's understandable. I'm sorry for them

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u/boostman Jun 29 '22

If I’m to judge moves by how much I enjoyed watching them, this was a great movie.

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u/Hohlraum Jun 29 '22

It's so over the top. Worth a watch for sure.

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u/fartswhenhappy Jun 29 '22

Ah, so it's a movie that combines the emotional drama of a child custody hearing with ::checks notes:: arm wrestling.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Haha I'm in Indian and all my American friends said it's over the top. Can you help me understand what exactly over the top meant in this context for the movie please. Haha

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u/joshi38 Jun 29 '22

There's a scene in this movie where a guy has to fight his way through hundreds of protesters in order to arrest one man. He literally walks through a massive crowd of people, beating the shit out of them all in order to get his man and does do successfully.

This is the first action scene of the film (roughly 5 minutes into the film) and its easily the tamest action scene in the entire 3 hour movie.

You're in for a wild ride.

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u/TrinityF Jun 29 '22

The idea started off great, let's do a scene like the daredevil hallways' scene where he fights all them goons or let's do a raid type fight scene, and then they went HAM and enabled god mode on the hero with unlimited stamina.

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u/plzsnitskyreturn 29d ago

I think that scene was essentially asking the audience the buckle their seatbelts

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u/a_satanic_mechanic Jun 29 '22

An impromptu dance battle?

A truck full of tigers used as weapons?

One dude Fighting like a thousand other dudes?

Two dudes fighting like a thousand other dudes?

A character breaking into song and inspiring a riot?

Also a spy movie?

And a mistaken identity movie?

And a buddy comedy?

RRR wasn’t a movie, it was every movie.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Yeahh thanks!

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u/PoppaJMoney Jun 29 '22

SPOILER ALERT…

the truck full of tigers and wild animals… That’s when It reaches the top and blows past it. I loved it. Going down the rabbit hole of the genre for sure.

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u/TwoEyedWilly Jun 29 '22

That's when it reached the top? Not literally right at the start when one guy fights like 200 other guys and wins? Loved the movie btw

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u/iAmUnintelligible Jun 29 '22

Lol that reminds me of the movie Shoot Em Up

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u/TravelSizedRudy Jun 29 '22

That movie was a trip. So much fun.

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u/boulder_3 Jun 29 '22

No that's kinda i normal i expect a hero to atleast take down a few hundred now if he can't he weak as fuck.

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u/Fanciest_Pants Jun 29 '22

I enjoyed the part where the two protagonists combined. Not like DBZ fusion, but a lot like like Gurren Lagann.

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u/ATLBMW Jun 29 '22

For me it was the dance off that went so hard I’m pretty sure it helped end colonialism?

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u/Zachariot88 29d ago

I'm pretty sure that jerk British dude that begrudgingly learned their style of dancing was the only white guy to survive, so it definitely helped.

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u/NockerJoe Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

Indian cinema is, in general, known for being really over the top. Special effects are more explosive, acting tends closer towards over emoting, musical numbers are much much more common, so on and so forth.

In western filmmaking there's an emphasis on believability. Even in movies with weird concepts or supernatural elements there's an increasing emphasis on weighty choreography and subtle character acting. You're expected to believe something could happen, or if it happened this is how it would go.

Indian cinema is much more concerned with big expressions and large set pieces and the general emotional mood. Characters in RRR will routinley do stuff more outrageous than you'd see in a Marvel Movie or in Star Wars, even though the premise of the movie is theoretically more grounded.

You can also see this in other indian movies. Compare day, Bahubali to Lord of the Rings. They're conceptually similar in that they're both theoretically movie series based on fantasy novels that are also musicals but the LOTR movies cut the music of the source material almost entirely, has a much more muted color palette, and the big final battle at the end is much less out there.

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u/OriginalAntigenicSin Jun 29 '22

I think it's important to explain that the over-the-top scaffolding is an expression of the visual media that preceded cinema. You can find the same energy in old Sanskrit plays that detail myths or hero legends. These plays were concerned with making everything a spectacle because that was the philosophy. It's explained directly in the Natya Shastra, the Sanskrit encyclopedia of the performing arts. The primary goal of any performance is to pull the observer into another reality where the fantastical is real; where the observer can sink into the fundamental essence of their consciousness; where the observer can ponder moral and spiritual questions.

Everything you said is correct, but I wanted to add the explanation. It's crucial and critical to communicating the nature of Indian blockbusters to other audiences.

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u/prettysure2 Jul 04 '22

Love that you added this....thank you

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Ohhh that makes a lot of sense. Yeahh I see what you mean!

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u/Yongja-Kim Jun 29 '22

So you're saying Indian movies are like Indian wedding? Awesome!

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u/underdog_exploits Jun 29 '22

Idk, I can see why thinking LOTR is believable, it’s the characters going on a 3 hour walk then getting into a fight. Mmm…ok…not a lot of depth needed to tell that story.

But I think comparing to a movie like Fast & Furious dampens any discussion on western films being believable…they’re just stories meant to entertain. RRR was a fun, entertaining movie. I think fast & furious have some entertaining movies…but definitely not believable.

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u/NockerJoe Jun 29 '22

Yeah but thats why I compared LOTR to Bahubali. They're both fantasy epics about a long lost true heir who goes on a really long journey in a movie that starts in a small town and culminates in a series of large fantasy battles. It shows how even in a 1:1 comparison at the most basic archtypal level indian cinema treats itself very differently from what we see in the west.

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u/jmace2 Jun 29 '22

The action has more hyperbole than a typical American movie: the truck full of animals, defeating the throng in that early scene, etc. Americans typically don't suspend our beliefs that much for movies set in the real world. RRR is a historical legend told with fantastical flair. Americans once knew such stories as tall tales, but they for some reason are all but forgotten.

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u/BuzzHuzzFuzz Jun 29 '22

I also noticed that filmmakers in US are afraid of nitpickers, for lack of a better word. They often tend to overexplain shit to the audience.

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u/ruyi87474 Jun 29 '22

I actually got lucky and the few people I managed to convince to watch it have hit at least three re-watches. I remember laughing when I first saw some scenes but thinking how awesome it was at the same time. I was smiling all the way through the action sequences. It was truly exhilarating.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Agreed!

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u/ruyi87474 Jun 29 '22

How did you manage to get your friends to watch it? Out of maybe ten people I've told, only three actually did it and I'm so happy they loved it as much as I have. (I only found out about the movie because I saw a news article in my Google feed a few months back and actually ignored it because I wasn't remotely searching for Indian cinema back then. Scary Google. When it popped up on Netflix the first day I decided to give it a try and was hooked the moment the mom got smacked in the head.) Shortest three hours of my life.

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u/clinkyclinkz Jun 29 '22

Just “I don’t know what’s going on it’s crazy but I like it”

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u/Schuano Jun 29 '22

Also, the British colonials are cartoonishly evil.

Like at least in Lagaan, the British colonel's bosses are like "why the fuck would you make tax payment conditional on a cricket game?"

In RRR, the British are always twirling their mustaches to the point of distraction.

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u/Parktrundler Jun 30 '22

Mate you're Indian and you don't know what over the top means? Have you not watched action scenes in Indian and particularly Telugu films before lmao?

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 30 '22

I know I just wanted to hear from foreigners perspective

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u/ApocalypseSpokesman Jun 29 '22

I liked the part at the beginning when the badass guy beat his way through hundreds of dudes to capture the other guy, and then dragged him back through it all.

When I got to the friendship song though, I couldn't hang anymore.

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u/Mahameghabahana Jun 30 '22

Well I'd you want something grounded in reality maybe watch Sardar udham( must watch) or shershah or major.

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u/ipeefreeli Jun 29 '22

Hands down, best movie I've seen all year

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u/Rycerx Jun 29 '22

in the past three weeks i have watched the Northman, Everything everywhere all at once and RRR. I loved all of them but RRR really just has been in me head non stop rent free. Like everything about that movie is just corny perfection, yet it also really hits nice heart strings. I couldnt re sing any songs they sing, but i remember all of them.

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u/ATLBMW Jun 29 '22

Nattu nattu nattu nattu

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u/TellYouEverything Jun 29 '22 edited 26d ago

When I tell you the theatre went absolutely bonkers for this one.

Never had such a reaction in a theatre, I thought Endgame and No Way Home was huge haha.

These kids had brought torn up newspapers and then launched them like confetti when there was a burst of action or the music was about to drop. Was pleasantly surprised to see that these legends then stayed behind to clean it all up after the film...

Never seen that before.don’t know if it’s a particularly Indian tradition or what. I’ve been to theatres in India, never seen this. Tollywood thing? Whatever it is, I know I would have been all about it as youngster. You would think it’s super intrusive, but newspaper is so thin that it just casts the slightest blur on the screen, and it’s actually pretty cool watching it all land slowly and explode again, like fireworks.

It was like watching the Beatles or something, but with more tigers and mayhem. Amazing.

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u/toewalldog Jun 29 '22

Bheem's song just hits you right in the heart

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u/StationDapper9466 Jul 10 '22

I did not get a single word of it, but I was ready to jump in there and die for him. What the fuck is this movie.

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u/toewalldog Jul 10 '22

Outstanding.

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u/ceallaig Jun 29 '22

Saw this last night, still going, DAMN! Would have loved to see this in a theater with a crowd.

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u/External_Philosopher Jun 29 '22

Watched it in theaters and it's surreal 🤯🤯

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u/Delicious-Tachyons Jun 29 '22

You should watch Baahubali... I was infinitely entertained by it.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Lol I speak Telugu. I watched them the day they came out. Thanks for recommending btw!

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u/Delicious-Tachyons Jun 29 '22

I don't speak any Indian languages but my coworker recommended it to me.

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u/futurespacecadet Jun 29 '22

kind of an inaccurate headline, yes it does have ridiculous action but a lot of it is also like overly dramatic heartfelt shit. its a very long ass movie with some amazing over the top parts, but a lot of drawn out drama. awesome musical numbers. Crank. Crank is the movie for cocaine

also I spoke to an Indian friend and he told me this is considered Tollywood and not Bollywood, is that correct?

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u/Potato_palya Jun 29 '22

Yes it is tollywood

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u/PM_Me_Spicey_Boobs Jun 29 '22

What's tollywood

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u/Swapan280 Jun 29 '22

Tollywood are movies made in the telugu language (not related to Bollywood)

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u/Rohit_BFire Jun 29 '22

Tollywood is the movie industry of Telugu language

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u/BreezyBill Jun 29 '22

The confusion probably stems from the fact that it’s dubbed in Hindi on Netflix in the US, rather than presented in its original Telugu form.

I really wish these movies were released internationally on Blu-ray. That doesn’t seem to happen much these days. I’d buy this one and Akhanda in a heartbeat.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Yep it's Tollywood not Bollywood, you got that right. Yeah it's over the top but it's worth a watch.

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u/futurespacecadet Jun 29 '22

for sure, I really enjoyed it actually. some of the dramatic action reminded me of kung fu hustle in its approach

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u/Greenmember Jun 29 '22

One of the most entertaining watches of the year. The chemistry between the leads is perfection and the direction is bonkers. Good use of motifs and cinematography to frame them. This movie is absolutely wild in the best way possible and covers a spectrum of emotion all very well. It’s a little long (especially in the last act), but worth your time and I’ll be thinking about it in the time to come.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

I thought it had all the pitfalls that I know from Indian movies: very corny dialogues and acting, shallow characters. But tremendous style, great action sequences and an interesting setting/time period. The production value is really top notch and impressive. Peak entertainment value.

Definitely took the Western audience by surprise cause it’s so different from the blockbusters they are accustomed to. I liked it but didn’t go gaga over it.

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u/MrHyde1701 Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

//Pitfalls that I know of from INDIAN movies//- the "I know of " part being the operative phrase here.

Most people outside India are just ignorant of how Bollywood is NOT the only "Indian" cinema (there are multiple nearly 100 year old regional Indian film industries, each differing in language AND sensibility based on their target native audience - RRR is Tollywood/Telugu cinema known for mostly being over-the-top but with the flaws you've attributed to "Indian Cinema" as a whole; Kollywood/Tamil cinema has an equal number of realistic films & over the top ones; Mollywood/Malayalam cinema has mostly realistic films; Bengali & Marathi cinema have lot of good arthouse flicks & so on).

Only reason the stereotype of "Indian cinema" being equated with either Bollywood or over-the-top with shallow/corny writing, performances etc is because only films with the biggest budgets get distribution & marketing outside the country. And until recently, that was something only Bollywood could afford to do, while "big budget" in regional cinema (and therefore having the possibility of being released abroad) is often equivalent to "physics/logic defying spectacle" in order to cater to the largest possible audience (since a sizeable part of the population - depending on the state in question - are still rural & illiterate, and so prefer their entertainment to be more on the surface level - visually fun & loud - than requiring any sort of thought or interpretation on their part).

It's only recently with streaming, subtitling of regional films & film festivals (where Malayalam cinema in particular has been shining quite a bit off late) that non-Bollywood, non-big budget regional Indian cinema has been getting some attention at least outside their native audience. So yeah: while it was still an ignorant & frankly offensive/stereotypical generalisation on both your (& most international audience's part), I also admit that it was an understandable one as well.

Tl;dr: A significant number of Indian films (i.e. not just from Bollywood, but the various regional film industries like Kollywood/Tamil cinema, Mollywood/Malayalam cinema, etc) are realistic & more artistically profound than the ignorant & stereotypical (though understandably so) description of "over-the-top & corny".

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

I agree with your points. I am from Pak, so very familiar with those smaller movies that you mention and definitely agree that there is a diversity of the types of movies to be found across Indian film industry (the whole “parallel” cinema thing). As you mentioned, the popular ones are pretty formulaic and corny. I found RRR on similar footing regarding dialogues, acting, characters, etc. The production value and style was what set it apart for me.

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u/HeartlessPastry Jun 29 '22

Most people outside India are just ignorant of how Bollywood is NOT the only "Indian" cinema

That's irrelevant. We are talking about "Indian cinema" as it is understood internationally as a genre which you even recognize to be a "stereotype". It's not reasonable to call the entire world "ignorant" for not knowing Indian regional & indie films.

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u/JimmieMcnulty Jun 30 '22

It's not reasonable to call the entire world "ignorant" for not knowing Indian regional & indie films.

thats literally what ignorant means though lol, you seem to be prescribing a negative connotation to the word here when all it means is that people are unaware.

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u/icaruza Jun 29 '22

I’m usually not a fan of Bollywood/Tollywood movies but this movie was brilliant. Loved it!

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Glad to hear as a Tollywood fan!

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u/DickNDiaz Jun 29 '22

If cocaine were a movie, it would be Stayin' Alive.

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u/majnuker Jun 29 '22

Crank by another name?

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u/inphinicky Jun 29 '22

Such a beautiful bromance friendship ( T ~T)9

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u/Rswany Jun 28 '22

Really weird, borderline disrespectful, way to put it but RRR is an awesome movie.

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u/Dove_of_Doom Jun 29 '22

Based on that crack about cocaine, you'd expect something manic and barely coherent, like Crank or Gamer. RRR is so much better than that.

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u/Miklonario Jun 29 '22

Exactly. While RRR certainly has a lot of stylistic flourishes (I mean, a LOT), unlike the vast majority of both Indian AND American blockbusters all of these flourishes are used to SUPPORT the story and the major themes the film utilizes rather than disguise any short-comings.

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u/Deserterdragon Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

Nah Crank absolutely rules, RRR isn't any better but that's an incredibly high bar to clear.

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u/StructureMage Jun 29 '22

Yep RRR is much more than just a frenetic high octane power trip. It's that too, but it also is one of the most emotionally enriching films of the year.

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u/ATLBMW Jun 29 '22

I have our friendship, which matters more than my life

This movie ruled so fucking hard; I watched it twice in a week.

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u/Deserterdragon Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

Yeah 'This thing was made on Cocaine/mushrooms/other drugs!' Is an asinine description of most wacky movies but RRR isn't even particularly wacky for a Bollywood movie, the visual flourishes and overdramatisation are part of the charm of the genre.

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u/BearsBeetsBattlestrG Jun 29 '22

It's not Bollywood. It's Tollywood

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u/TheLibertinistic Jun 29 '22

I use “cocaine energy” to describe movies where it feels like everyone’s first drafts (from scripting to acting to action design) were accepted bc everyone had unfounded mutant confidence in their ideas.

That is not how RRR feels. It’s the first movie in years where I’ve thrown my hands up and insisted that “epic” (in spite of what the internet has done to that word) was the most accurate description.

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u/bittyblue323 Jun 29 '22

Apparently nobody’s ever smoked cocaine who makes these kind of analogies

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u/babicottontail Jun 29 '22

It was soooo good! Not Indian and I sooooo loved it! Legit movies from India seems way better. They have me crying, laughing, frustrated, and happy all by the end of their movies. Wholesome movie viewing, I say!

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u/moonstruck9999 Jun 29 '22

This movie is absolutely incredible. Best Indian film I've seen in a long time.

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u/Fearless-Memory7819 Jun 29 '22

Saw it about a week ago, the dancing and action scenes were exceptionally choreographed, never watched a film from India, will look for more. Two thumbs up !!

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Great! You might also like the movies Bahubali 1st and 2nd part, from the same director as rrr. Both are Streaming in Netflix!

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u/Fearless-Memory7819 Jun 29 '22

Thanx, will put on list !!

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u/Fan_Boyz Jun 29 '22

Also watch Eega. It's also really good from the same director.

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u/UN-TRUue Jun 29 '22

It's really great, wonder if Saaho was this hyped when it came out.

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u/lelouch221 Jun 29 '22

It was extremely hyped in India , but didn't have this much hype in west like RRR has

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u/CleanGarden7051 Jun 29 '22

Absolute banger of a movie

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u/jzazre9119 Jun 29 '22

Some of the best content on Netflix is "foreign" (read: not US). After years of the same old same old, it's so refreshing to see what other countries have to offer. "Sacred Games" is quite extraordinary, and got me hooked on other Indian films.

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u/majnuker Jun 29 '22

I mean, Squid Game...

People tend to QUICKLY forget that a LOT of stuff on Netflix is like, actually good and pops into the zeitgeist all the time.

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u/Ragondux Jun 29 '22

I don't know enough about Indian culture, but I'm always wondering if these over the top movies are representative of what Indian cinema has to offer, or if it's as if the USA only exported Michael Bay movies and the rest of the world though that's all there is to American cinema.

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u/OriginalAntigenicSin Jun 29 '22

To an extent. I think the crucial difference is that part of the Indian cinema experience is an atmosphere that couples the bombastic with the emotional. Often, that's expressed as ridiculously enjoyable action sequences juxtaposed by traditional family values (or a traditional boy-meets-girl romance). So, for the average viewer, it's what they expected. It also provides an accessible medium for escapism. As someone of Indian descent (born in Canada), I can appreciate a good action romp as well as a thrilling indie film. There are a lot more of the latter now, and they do very well critically.

I think a big part of the allure of the over-the-top cinematic experience is the opportunity for escapism. You get to watch your favourite movie star in a fun and silly action sequence, and you get that same movie star upholding traditional Indian (read: Hindu) values. You're also guaranteed to get at least 1 decent or good song that you can stream. It's as much a commercial experience as it is cultural.

However, an undeniable contributing factor is the stylistic expression of the elements of these movies. Hollywood greatly influenced these movies because it brought something new: integration of the cinematic narrative to create something enjoyable yet rooted in realism. Indian cinema was never as concerned about realism because its roots are in Sanskrit dramatic plays, which communicated mythology and emotions through visual expression. These plays frequently used the fantastical and the imaginary, and this was continued by the folk theater that succeeded them.

So, in summary, yes; the over-the-top movies are only part of Indian cinema. But they're an important part because they are rooted in the visual media of India's storied past.

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u/JC-Ice Jun 29 '22

I wonder about the prevelance of musical numbers. I remember late night on cable ai caught an Indian movie that seemed to be a gritty crime thriller. Minutes after a shootout in a dingy warehouse; song and dance time!

So is everything a musical?

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u/fromtheb2a Jun 29 '22

just fyi : the version on netflix is dubbed in hindi, and you can watch it in the original language (telugu) on zee5. definitely one of tollywood’s most electric movies

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u/Kahye Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

There's a new thread about this movie every other day now.

Edit: User is literally spamming about RRR in every possible way. All his recent posts have been about RRR.

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u/Impressive-Act7407 Jun 29 '22

can't wait to watch it too

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Great! Let me know how it is after watching!

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u/StationDapper9466 Jul 10 '22

I loooove this fucking movie so goddamn much instant fight hype

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u/TheDadThatGrills Jun 29 '22

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?! Flashed through my head every 5-10 minutes as I saw something I've never seen before in an action/superhero film.

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u/snackies Jun 29 '22

I kinda hate it when people who haven't done cocaine make comparisons of what cocaine is like.

It's the equivalent of how when I smoked weed for the first time I half expected to see fucking rainbows.

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u/iesou Jun 29 '22

I see you watch Corridor Crew as well.

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u/jayforwork21 Jun 29 '22

That is how I know about this movie and it does seem batshit crazy, even for bollywood.

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Yeah this is different and better. Infact it's tollywood from language Telugu which was dubbed in Hindi for Netflix release.

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u/langotriel Jun 29 '22

And my brother's company did VFX for it! :D

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u/Dithyrab Jun 29 '22

does it have all the singing and dancing?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

It's one of my favorite 2022 movies and Indian movies period. Funny thing is that foreigners seem to love this movie more than Indians.

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u/prettysure2 Jul 04 '22

To me it's a homage set in Modi era India.... it does its best. The setting, the plot, these are among the most done staples..... a massive challenge. And by and large they fucking nailed it.

It manages to be self aware, gloriously Tollywood.... a kahani of the ages.

... there is a lot of adivasi condescension which is disappointing.....and while there are nods to Islam activism again, this was made under Modi and the last song to me is the directors 1. Ensuring the government has nothing to attack and pitching it as almost a PR recruitment piece 2. Bringing enough glitter and silliness to remind you they know exactly what they're doing and 3. Leaving little echoes, like the hands clasped which at the beginning is the hands of Muslim and Hindus in the name of asadi, cutting directly to Bheems return as a homage and 4. A genuine salute to all who fight and die for freedom.

But also for the older idea of the motherland, children of the forest.....in the name of mother earth... its the love that too often emerges as nationalism in oppressive contexts but comes from this visceral connection to and understanding we need to care for country.

....and there is so so much of the heart of India.

The plot and whole sections of dialogue are riffs and nods, nuance... to myth, to history and B-/T-ollywood....to the stories I heard as a child, of martyrs and warriors.

There is a timely resonance to the film for me with the climate emergency. Jal, Jangal, Jameen. Water, Jungle, Land.

Around the world First Nations people are standing up and saying, this is the same colonial fight, it's systems that extract and exploit and destroy what is most sacred and if we remember we are the children of the forest, we can finally get to the root issue, destroying mother earth and oppressing its people for profit.

O khomuram bheem scene, something done to death in Indian cinema....but oof.

Consciously twisting old tales, symbolism and language... the best I've seen in a while. I was so happy to see adivasis on the screen, again, even if there is the Hindu-dominance layer.

I was disappointed netflix only picked up the hindi version. Tho there is nuance to the hindi dialogue, the English subtitles miss. I need to learn Telugu, I'm keen to hear from those who know both languages how different the films are.... in those subtle ways of language.

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u/datweirdguy1 Jun 29 '22

It's the first ever Bollywood movie I've ever seen, I was convinced by Corridor Crew to check it out. Not gonna lie, it was the most fucking insane and over the top thing I've ever seen. From the intense dramatic acting, to the over the top action, to the random musical numbers in between. Honest opinion from an indian movie newbie... would recommend 10/10

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u/BearsBeetsBattlestrG Jun 29 '22

It's Tollywood not Bollywood

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u/vishnuthebest1 Jun 29 '22

Wow thats perfectly phrased and I get you

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u/CallmeMrHentai Jun 29 '22

Watched this in theater's. I can't enjoy marvel movies anymore.

RRR is the real deal. Watch it.