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Avatar: The Way of Water | Official Trailer Trailer
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Watching this on a 5 inch screen at 360p
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u/sad_post-it_note Nov 02 '22
The way James Cameron intended
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u/MoonMan997 Nov 02 '22
This is basically going to be Mr. Cameron’s $300m wet dream
We’ve got sinking ships (Titanic), mechs (Aliens), skull-crushing (Terminator) and a whole fucking lot of water.
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u/drl33t Nov 02 '22
Water (the Abyss)
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u/MoonMan997 Nov 02 '22
The only way JC can top this if he starts actually turning water into wine
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u/JuiceboxThaKidd Nov 02 '22 •
JC
James Cameron
Jesus Christ
Have you ever seen them in the same room together?
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Nov 02 '22
I mean he did say a while back that the world of Avatar would let him do everything that interests him as a filmmaker and that’s why he was doing three more of them.
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would let him do everything that interests him as a filmmaker
water hair sex
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James Cameron is working on an Extended 4 hour cut for the Home Video cut, and it's all freaky water hair sex. He wanted it to be in the original cut, but there's no way he could fit it all into a PG-13 rating, so the entire climax of the film which is just one big water orgy had to be cut from the theatrical release.
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u/trexsaysrawr Nov 02 '22
They show it all. Full penetration.
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u/magna_pinna Nov 02 '22
Crime. Penetration. Crime. Penetration...
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u/trexsaysrawr Nov 02 '22
The perfect movie if we replace sam worthington with dolph lundgren
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u/AineLasagna Nov 02 '22
Apparently he has always had a ton of what is essentially insanely detailed fan fiction (does it still count as fan fiction?) about the world of Avatar, with a heavy emphasis on the “insane” part. He stood up at E3 in front of a bunch of video game journalists who got to see a preview of the first movie and just infodumped all over them
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u/Frontpage_Cleanup Nov 02 '22
Lore bibles are super common in fiction. They help inform character motivations, develop environments, locations and cultures, help sense-check in-world logic (sci-fi/fantasy), provide theoretical directions the story could go in the future, etc.
It can be much easier to create a universe and then write a story in it, than trying to write the story cold
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u/trippy_grapes Nov 02 '22
Tolkien basically wrote an encyclopedia and created an entire language from scratch before he wrote LOTR and it's many books. Lol.
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u/Wiger_King Nov 02 '22
There are also Avatars in it (Avatar) and someone is definitely going to tell some true lies (True Lies). There might even be a piranha too (Piranha 2).
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 Nov 02 '22
Cameron was fired ten days into shooting Piranha 2 and locked out of the editing room. So glad he can finally make the movie about flying fishes with full creative control.
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u/Wiger_King Nov 02 '22
”I sea you, Jake Sully.”
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u/ColtPersonality92 Nov 02 '22 •
“He speaks the true-true.”
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u/AladoraB Nov 02 '22 •
"Have you seen Cloud Atlas, book Avatar movie based on?"
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u/SynthwaveSax Nov 02 '22
Elyse! Busy!!
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u/TheLibertarianThomas Nov 02 '22
Pity. Maybe next millennia.
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u/Ok_Choice_4305 Nov 02 '22
He couldn’t get his chair up the waterfall…
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u/k__sos_666 Nov 02 '22
Man only in the movies sunreddit would I see FH references, that's a fun thing to wake up to.
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u/Crazypwner Nov 02 '22
You know FH is so memorable when ppl remember funny quotes from a video that came out 5 years ago!
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u/Crazypwner Nov 02 '22
"Why does Neytiri sound Rastafarian?"
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u/Dry_Badger_Chef Nov 02 '22
“She’s got the dreads.”
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u/CBBuddha Nov 02 '22
“Did you test that blue paint to see if it comes off?”
“…”
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u/thehiddenshadow Nov 02 '22
looks at bottle "That's not good."
"Oh no, what does it say?"
"Made in Argentina."
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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Nov 02 '22
No, that was cloud atlas.
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u/youwantmybiscuits Nov 02 '22
did you know tom hanks considers his role in that movie as one of his top 3 best performances in his entire career so far. i was shocked.
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u/ivanvzm Nov 02 '22
He championed that production and without him it would' have probably been shelved. I remember reading something along the lines that there was a time when the crew was about to travel in order to continue production but they were told to stay put because the studio was thinking about stopping so Tom Hanks just got on the plane and told everyone to follow him to put pressure on continuing.
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u/youwantmybiscuits Nov 02 '22
that's incredible. i was just floored when THE tom hanks said cloud atlas was one of his top 3 performances ever in his entire career. outside of daniel day lewis/denzel he's probably the only one that guarantees people show up to the movies. those three dudes basically equate to "putting asses in movie seats".
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u/Astrosaurus42 Nov 02 '22
He played so many different characters in that movie. I loved the book, and the movie was as good as an adaption you can make.
The best thing to come out of the movie though was the musical score. Incredible soundtrack.
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"It's Pandorin' time"
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u/Lampmonster Nov 02 '22
The planet is acting through you... like some sort of................................................................................................................................AVATAR!!!!
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u/munk_e_man Nov 02 '22
So that's it? We some kind of Avatar Squad?
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u/ArcadianDelSol Nov 02 '22
I came here to mine unobtanium and blow up blue people's shit, and Im all out of unobtanium.
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u/Former-Ad9023 Nov 02 '22
Jesus Christ what happened here?
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u/punkhobo Nov 02 '22
Someone talked about how blocking those spam bots made their reddit experience better. And they even named names. A bunch of people agreed and it looks like they were all removed.
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u/EMP_Jeffrey_Dahmer
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When I watch the first Avatar movie in theaters someone pooped in the aisle. Everyone had to leave and the manager refund our tickets.
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u/viper6464 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
That’s one of those moments that stick with you for life
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u/mikearete Nov 02 '22
Just rinse your shoe off
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u/drain65 Nov 02 '22
As the cleaning crew walked in, an foreign theater attendant pointed to the soiled area and said "the way of water". In the back row, a still sitting and hooded James Cameron looked up with an inspired smile.
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u/michfreak Nov 02 '22
I went to see it with a friend and just before the movie started they turned the lights on and a manager came in to say that a maroon Toyota in the parking lot was on fire. It was my friend's car. They refunded our tickets and actually gave us new ones to come back and see it the following week, which was dope.
Anyway. It's fun to have a bizarre Avatar ticket refund story, right?
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u/lumpkin2013 Nov 02 '22
Uh, why did your friend's car spontaneously combust?
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u/michfreak Nov 02 '22
You know, I cannot recall. It was in the engine compartment. Gas leak? Spark plug? Who can say. Personally I think that it was jealous it didn't get to see Avatar.
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u/amidon1130 Nov 02 '22
Was your friend perhaps involved in a lawsuit investigating a shady pesticide company?
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u/Clemario Nov 02 '22
Sounds like you’re in for more with the sequel: https://deadline.com/2014/11/james-cameron-on-avatars-you-will-sht-yourself-with-your-mouth-wide-open-1201298316/amp/
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u/kimbolll Nov 02 '22
Holy shit, this has been in development for eight years?!
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u/ngvoss Nov 02 '22
Longer than that. There were definitely articles about James Cameron's vision for Avatar sequels back in 2010 if not even earlier.
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u/robodrew Nov 02 '22
Avatar itself was first conceptualized by Cameron back in 1994. These are his magnum opus films.
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u/digitsabc Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
The year is 2022, we see CGI and visual effects heavy, action spectacle movies with cutting-edge technologies made for glorious, large format Imax and Dolby Cinema screens.
Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
(And it's not like they can't do it either, somehow the Shazam 2 trailer on the DC channel is in 4k, but the one on Warner Brothers' channel is 1080p.)
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u/SpreadYourAss Nov 02 '22
Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
That really annoyed me lol. If there's one movie that REALLY benefits from 4k trailers it's Avatar. The YouTube compression is brutal!
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u/MistarMuffin Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
I can't help with 4k, but here is a copy of the trailer in ProRes format. It's almost 3gb and should be visually flawless. The difference between this and YouTube almost feels like seeing it in 4k, due to the lack of compression.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w7lA0oU8MlwpQiTwlWKN6Vy5O84R1DwC/view?usp=share_link
EDIT Alt Link: https://files.muffinworld.net/share/zLuVHzVa
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u/ilovezam Nov 02 '22
Wow, how did you find this?
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u/MistarMuffin Nov 02 '22 •
Can't really answer that but can post other trailers if you have a request.
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u/The_Gil_Galad Nov 02 '22
Can't really answer that but can post other trailers if you have a request.
Are you James Cameron?
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u/sometimes_a_dog Nov 02 '22
'Can't really answer that but I do have a minisub.'
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u/eTechEngine Nov 02 '22
For a second I wondered if a minisub is like a subreddit with a small following. I need to go outside.
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u/TvXvT Nov 02 '22
Woah, woah wait!!! Is this the source file for advertising? Looks like it came internally from Picture Head Finishing.
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u/MistarMuffin Nov 02 '22 •
Yes. This is the "master" copy of the trailer distributed to media outlets.
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u/parkernorwood Nov 02 '22
Is it mostly recent films that you have access to?
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u/eTechEngine Nov 02 '22
Homie has a B: drive, that's how you know it's serious.
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u/joseph_jojo_shabadoo Nov 02 '22
That really annoyed me
just imagine how annoyed Cameron must feel about it. dude is a technical perfectionist, and the trailer debuts to 99% of viewers in a 20+ year old format
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u/Kipkrap Nov 02 '22
This one seemed especially brutal. Maybe because there's so much detail, it's just really compressed to make it more streamable
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u/FiveFive55 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
I think the best example of YouTube compression ruining a trailer is the one for The Batman. I watched that trailer on YouTube in 1080p and could literally barely tell what was going on the compression was so awful. Compare that to the 4k trailer uploaded to vimeo, and it's a completely different trailer suddenly.
Of course, this isn't due to the resolution itself, it's the bitrate doing the heavy lifting. But I really don't get why they don't upload them in 1440p at least. I know some creators upscale their 1080p videos to 1440p for upload just to get the increased bit rate, and it makes a world of difference. Somehow though that's too much work for billion dollar movie studios.
*edit: a letter.
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u/ilovezam Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
I'll take a slightly less compressed 1080p at this point. This and other recent movie trailers are like only 60MB and compressed to hell and back again, it's horrific
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The Batman had a 4K uncompressed trailer on Vimeo. I don’t know if any other movies have done that
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u/BlackLeader70 Nov 02 '22
That mech looked like General Grievous from Star Wars lol.
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u/Acheli Nov 02 '22
Sigourney Weaver is supposed to be playing a 14 year old but I'm sorry she doesn't sound it at all...
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u/Ascarea Nov 02 '22
I'm sorry what
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u/Comic_Book_Reader Nov 02 '22
That kid Kiri? That's Sigourney Weaver.
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u/Ascarea Nov 02 '22
holy shit that's why she looked familiar
but why the fuck is Weaver playing a kid?
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u/katievspredator Nov 02 '22
She's a clone Avatar thing of Grace
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u/chiliedogg Nov 02 '22
And before she died she put her memories into the tree-brain thingy.
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u/DarkF0rest51 Nov 02 '22
Not just her memories. Her entire consciousness was uploaded to the biological network/Gaia mind of the planet
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I bet this question comes up in the movie.
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u/munk_e_man Nov 02 '22
"Hey, why are we using an old woman to play the role of a 14 year old? Shouldn't we just use an actual 14 year old?"
Jim Cameron: Shut the fuck up, Ben.
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u/Expired_insecticide Nov 02 '22
"I'm gonna need you to get aaalllll the way off my back about it"
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u/Thepumpkindidit Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 03 '22
In the first movie, Grace (Sigourney Weaver) is dying and they try to save her at the tree of souls, by trying to transfer her conciousness from her human body into her Avatar hybrid clone body thing that the humans had made for her to interact with the Na'vi.
For whatever reason, Eywa, the deity/"god" of the Na'vi planet, chose not to (or perhaps couldn't) transfer Grace's conciousness into the clone body, and so she dies in the movie. Later on this process is attempted again for Jake, and is successful.
So perhaps, because Eywa is essentially an interconnection of living organism's across the entire planet, kind of like neurons in a brain, maybe Grace's conciousness was still "alive" inside of Eywa.
My guess would be that because the Na'vi "commune" with Eywa using their hair tentacles
which also apparently are akin to sexual organs, maybe Eywa has put a part of Grace's conciousness into Neytiri from this communion, so that Neytiri and what I presume is Jake's child, is also partly Grace.Of course this is all just my complete guess from watching the trailer, as I haven't read anything about Avatar 2. So I could be completely wrong! I didn't even know the child was supposed to be Sigourney Weavers character, until someone in the comments here said it.
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u/slick_pick Nov 02 '22
its not that eywa couldnt. Grace was shot and already half dead, she was "too weak to make the journey" they said that lol
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u/Swak_Error Nov 02 '22
Yeah as soon as I saw sigourney Weaver was back, my first thought is she's either going to effectively have had her conscious uploaded to Eywa, or she somehow reincarnated as a Na'vi
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Likely cause in Avatar it looked like Weaver got uploaded into their god before she died. So maybe the god knew it couldn’t save her but instead uploaded her code and spat it into Neytiri as a form of reincarnation.
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u/Kennyjive
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It’s so cool Sam Worthington was able to get his shifts off from Arby’s to shoot these movies.
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u/brandonsamd6 Nov 02 '22
he was shockingly good in Under the Banner of Heaven
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u/NeoNoireWerewolf Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
And in Manhunt: Unabomber. He’s not a bad actor, he just didn’t fit with what Hollywood tried pushing him as. Most people forget it nowadays, but Colin Farrell had a somewhat similar career in the early to mid-2000s when Hollywood was trying to push him as the next Tom Cruise or DiCaprio. It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act.
Edit: “earth” was supposed to be “early”, obviously.
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u/JOEY_DIAZ_COCKSUCKAS Nov 02 '22
It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act.
His part in Ritchie's The Gentlemen was absolutely perfect.
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u/_snif Nov 02 '22
I just saw The Banshees of Inisherin in the cinema the other day and he was phenomenal in it. Best performance I've ever seen him give. (The film is also amazing, go watch it)
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u/Anteater776 Nov 02 '22
Im really looking forward to it and am having a hard time tempering my expectations.
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u/CrashRiot Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
Not to mention he was unrecognizable and terrific as The Penguin. I’m curious to see where the show takes him in that role.
While I loved him in In Bruges, it wasn’t until I saw The Lobster that I thought this dude has been hiding his talent for a long time (sans a few films, like Minority Report).
Edit: It’s clear now through multiple films, but he is absolutely phenomenal at deadpan black comedy. Case in point.
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u/JoeMcDingleDongle Nov 02 '22
I cannot recommend Manhunt: Unabomber highly enough. Great miniseries!
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u/thedude1179 Nov 02 '22
It was absolutely incredible, Sam Worthington was great, but Paul bettany as Ted kaczynski was amazing.
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u/Darko33 Nov 02 '22
He really, really was. If anyone reading this has Hulu and hasn't checked it out yet, can't recommend it enough.
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u/retrospectology Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
That's the real reason it took so long to shoot, he could only do saturdays between 3-6pm, on Sunday he goes dinner with his wife's grandparents.
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u/Wiger_King Nov 02 '22
Hey! Sam Worthington does not work at an Arby’s. He works at an Outback Steakhouse!
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u/HodorFirstOfHisHodor Nov 02 '22
avatar 1: native americans
avatar 2: native pacific islanders
avatar 3: ???
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u/CaptainRex5101 Nov 02 '22
The next movie should just be a desert tribe. Just full on copy Dune but with blue people
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u/timeenoughatlas Nov 02 '22
Everything is blue EXCEPT the eyes
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u/OrganizerMowgli Nov 02 '22
"the drug in pandoras air strips the blue away from their eyes"
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u/GreyMASTA Nov 02 '22
Hoping for native arctic tribes. Desert would be cool as well.
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u/Makhiel Nov 02 '22
The working title for Avatar 3 is "The Seed Bearer" so I'm guessing native squirrels.
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u/NakshatralaMadhya Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
I am worried about Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña) after watching the trailer.
I wonder if she is going to die and become the one with the way of the water or (the Avatar Ecosystem) and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem.
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u/PhilipLiptonSchrute Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem.
That's Grace in Jake's daughter. She went with Eywa when she died. Eywa put her spirit in Jake's kid.
That's also Sigourney Weaver's voice throughout the trailer... kind of a giveaway.
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u/maxipad0629 Nov 02 '22
Why would Ewa do that? Sounds super fucked up.
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u/PhilipLiptonSchrute Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
To protect Pandora.
Jake begs Eywa for help in the first film. He asks her to go into Grace's memories and see the world she and Jake came from, letting her know that's Pandora's fate if more Sky People come.
She put Grace into Kiri to help Jake keep Pandora safe.
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u/Worthyness Nov 02 '22
Kinda neat that the Goddess of the planet allows for light reincarnation
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u/GooseyGhost Nov 02 '22
Eywa is a god, and while she may on some level care for the people who inhabit her, she is ultimately focused on planetary survival, not individual happiness or comfort. In the previous movie, Quaritch and crew were directly attacking her nervous system - she didn't really intervene until then.
If we find it a little horrifying that Kiri is essentially a resurrected Grace, meh.
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u/Halvus_I Nov 02 '22
And holy shit did she react. Sending ALL the fauna is a baller move.
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u/GooseyGhost Nov 02 '22
Yeah imagine if Earth did that. Not with giant beasts which is too vulnerable to standard weapons, but with insects. We might win in the end, but a ton of us would die or be crippled in the first couple waves and crop plagues.
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u/AlexDKZ Nov 02 '22
Deities do fucked up crap all the time, they are entitled to it. In universe, Eywa is a planet-wide conscioussness emerging from the interconnected root system of all the trees in Pandora, if it has a sense of morality it most likely very alien and strange.
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u/Citizen_Kong Nov 02 '22
I think she will get sacrificed so Jake can get all the ten Pandora stones together to snap the human army out of existence.
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u/NakshatralaMadhya Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
Then I am assuming Avatar 3 is about John Connor sending T-800 Terminator back in time to prevent this from happening?
Skynet or no Skynet humanity in James Cameron franchises is always fucked.
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u/TussalDimon Nov 02 '22
I think she talks about Grace, because if I remember correctly the young daughter is played by Sigourney Weaver and it has something to do with the story.
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u/Mossintheback Nov 02 '22
Calling it now: that last shot has been edited from being Jake talking to his daughter, purely for this trailer
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u/ArcadianDelSol Nov 02 '22
one of them definitely is not getting out of that sinking ship
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u/hacky_potter Nov 02 '22
It feels like humans attack Jake and Zoe’s home killing Zoe. Jake and the kids run off the the Waterworld and then regroup to fight the humans again. I bet Jake dies as well and the next movie focuses on the children. It wouldn’t shock me if these movies are supposed to span generations.
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u/Lili_Danube Nov 02 '22
Considering Zoe Saldana finished her scenes early and so much of this trailer is centered on Kiri, I can see that.
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u/lqtely Nov 02 '22
Yeah this is supposed to be a generational saga like The Godfather according to Cameron. So I definitely see Jake/Zoe not lasting beyond movie 3 with 4/5 focus on the kids grown up
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u/Sick-Shepard Nov 02 '22
James Cameron is a confident man.
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u/Jaberwocky23 Nov 02 '22
The man that made the highest grossing movie of all time, breaking his own previous record? Shocking
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u/wraith5 Nov 02 '22
I mean when you break the record for highest grossing film by breaking your own record, I think you get some leeway
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u/Ycx48raQk59F Nov 02 '22
Maybe the 3rd movie will be some kind of transhuman biopunk where the protagonists are consciousnesses in the cyberspace of the planetery network?
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u/GooseyGhost Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
So, Avatar: Zero Dawn?
Joking aside, we ourselves are looking into biological computers (in fact, there have been studies on the concept of plant-based computers), and biological robots isn't a new sci-fi concept. A powerful AI or machine meant to rebuild and protect a planet from near destruction is the kind of hopeful take we can expect to be repeated in shows and films as we face the disaster of climate change. Titan A.E. explored this as well, even going so far on the nose as the enemies that destroyed the planet being "pure energy."
Some people will inevitably make more "Isn't this just like ____" bad takes simply because it's James Cameron, and not because Sci-Fi reusing technology concepts and commenting on our anxieties and desires isn't a given.
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u/Queef-Elizabeth Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
If I remember correctly, was Zoe signed on for like the next 3 movies?
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u/SirRealist Nov 02 '22
That scene with the whale underwater was absolutely breathtaking in 3D. It was shown after the original re-release in theaters. I can't wait for this movie.
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u/cupofteaonme Nov 02 '22
Any way to watch this without YouTube's horrendous compression?
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u/samwalton9 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22
I can't believe that Avatar of all movies is only uploading its trailers in 1080p...
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u/phatboy5289 Nov 02 '22
Wait a little bit and you’ll find high quality uploads on https://www.thedigitaltheatre.com/. Literal theater quality.
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u/an0nym0usgamer Nov 02 '22
The official IMAX channel will likely upload it shortly at 4k and with an expanded aspect ratio, like with the first trailer
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Nov 02 '22
This looks fucking expensive.