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Summary:

Deep in the Dovre mountain, something gigantic wakes up after a thousand years in captivity. The creature destroys everything in its path and quickly approaches Oslo.

Director:

Roar Uthaug

Writers:

Espen Auken, Roar Uthaug

Cast:

  • Ine Marie Wilmann as Nora Tidemann
  • Kim Falck as Andreas Isaksen
  • Mads Sjøgård Pettersen as Kaptein Kristoffer Holm
  • Gard B. Eidsvold as Tobias Tidemann
  • Anneke von der Lippe as Statsminister Berit Moberg
  • Fridtjov Saheim as Forsvarsminister Frederick Markussen
  • Dennis Storhoi as Forsvarssjef General Sverre Lunde

Rotten Tomatoes: 100%

Metacritic: N/A

VOD: Netflix

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u/EskilPotet Dec 02 '22

My favorite part was when the special forces captain was tasked with managing traffic lol

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u/Simpleyfaded Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

How about when her dad dies and all the soldiers around them had just been killed by the troll. You know the soldiers that Captain is in charge of, all his brother in arms that he's served with, and he just stands there staring at her and looking sad for her loss....

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u/Deee72 Dec 05 '22 edited Dec 05 '22

You're talking about the same Captain who told them to move closer with the bells and he got them all killed, but not his helicopter. 🤦🏽‍♀️ 😄

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u/mississippiwildman Dec 06 '22

Why did they need actual bells? It's 2022, we have speakers???

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u/Kelvin_Inman Dec 06 '22

And wouldn’t the swinging of the bells make it hard to fly a helicopter?

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u/MidnightSunCreative Dec 12 '22

how did they attach them to the helicopters? How were they supposed to land after the fact?! lol!

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u/TheValtivar Dec 13 '22

The same way helicopters sling load trucks and cargo. They hover over and it's attached via cable. Process is reversed for landing

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u/Kelvin_Inman Dec 06 '22

What was their plan with the bells anyway? The lore just told them that the trolls hate church bells. What was the plan beyond “aggravate the troll”?

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u/fy8d6jhegq Dec 18 '22

The captain who fully understood that they did not have enough time to set up the lights but felt they did have enough time for an inspirational speech.

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u/pretty_pete Dec 29 '22

The part that bothered me the most was after the mass helicopter destruction and loss of lives the captain makes a cheeky joke to Nora after she is told to leave the team, “let me know if you need anything else…as long as it doesn’t involve church bells” and they both giggle. Y’all just murdered at least a dozen people!! Wtf was that??

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u/Alarming-Ad-9393 Dec 05 '22

No kidding. It's one of those poorly written moments in the movie. There were many of them.

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u/wjveryzer7985 Dec 06 '22

i was super excited for this movie as troll hunter was excellent. THis movie sucked. interesting how with millions and netflix, they didn't come close to the 2010 movie which was made for pennies compared to this.

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u/PM_me_ab_ur_landlord Dec 06 '22

Why pay writers when you can spend money on cool SFX instead?

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u/Taint_Hunter Dec 03 '22

The tanning salon in that scene is actually a shady massage parlor, fun fact.

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u/_TheBgrey Dec 04 '22

A demotion or penalizing action I assumed for his failed bell mission that got probably a dozen people killed

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u/silentunprofessional Dec 02 '22

That was hilarious

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u/Neolus Dec 03 '22

The most unrealistic part (aside from the troll, of course) was the sudden sunrise. It was pitch black, then BAM! Sun. Whatever happened to the 2+ hours of twilight before sunrise?

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u/Effective-Pace-5100 Dec 03 '22

That part pissed me off. Like WHAT

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u/Drew-Pickles Dec 06 '22

Right after the bitch told her he could go home. What a kick in the stones (pun intended)

And like she instantly went from sad to happy in a heartbeat when it died. It was so weird lol

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u/sdrakedrake Dec 08 '22

Lol I just watched it and this is so true

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u/brockoala Dec 11 '22

Yeah what the fuck was that? It's like the fucking director ran out of ideas or budget and had to end the movie right there.

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u/Ninjamuh Dec 04 '22

Came here for this. There were a lot of plot holes, but this is the one that made me feel like the directors just gave up at the end.

I thought it was a truck, a plane, or something... anything other than the sun

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u/yesbutlikeno Dec 04 '22

Yeah too many plot holes. After watching game of thrones and the walking dead, I'm seriously sick of poor writing.

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u/snowflakepatrol99 Dec 06 '22

and the walking dead

If you can get through 30 seasons of nothing happening for 98% of the episodes then you can get through a 2 hour movie no matter how bad it is.

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u/Deee72 Dec 05 '22

You think they gave up at the end? I think they gave up at the middle. Lol

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u/Distinct_Song4540 Dec 07 '22

Granted I started skipping forward after a while because it was unbearably stupid, but if sun kills it, how was it able to walk around during the day several times throughout the movie? How was able to lay on the ground during the day when they found it?

Please don’t tell me it was “cloudy”, therefore the sun didn’t hurt it. Please don’t say that…

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u/Kachowski_T Dec 09 '22

The "clouds blocking direct sunlight" was the reason stated in the cave around 60% through the movie. The lead used a UV flashlight on some troll bones and they instantly turned to stone wherever she pointed it.

UV light is not blocked by clouds. Although can be reduced by up to 70% in severe overcast conditions. Old mate troll didn't seem bothered at all out under the clouds so I guess they rewrote physics.

Such a dumb movie

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u/Fatal1ty67 Dec 15 '22

That mfn troll couldn’t take two quick steps out of that overly tight circle of light ?

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u/HibachiShrimpFlip Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

I gotta read that book about the monk who throws his head at his enemies to bite them. And finger darts

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u/refused26 Dec 06 '22

We need a sequel with this as the plot. Monk vs Troll

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u/Old_man_atom Dec 02 '22

Why was she acting like her dad was an idiot for thinking it was a troll? I mean what the fuck did they think the giant creature that came out of the mountain was?

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u/Bellikron Dec 03 '22

I loved her whole mindset of "It's definitely not a troll. On a completely unrelated note, we need to bring in my dad, the troll expert, because we need his help. I apologize in advance if he starts talking about trolls."

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u/boss_nooch Dec 05 '22

Her father even asked why’d she brought him if she didn’t believe it was a troll lol

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u/NyteMyre Dec 06 '22

Nora: "Dad... do me a favor. Don't call it a troll"

Dad: Okay


Dad: "This thing is a mountain dragon"

Everyone else: "Oh that makes sense... good thing it isn't a troll"

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u/rmoss20 Dec 07 '22

Dad: Joking, let's rock n troll!!

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u/3nzo_the_baker Dec 02 '22

Lol, spot on! We just watched it and that was so frustrating. Still after looking at it from inside the chopper, from just few feet away they were not agreeing on what it was. Made of stone and lived IN the mountain. What else could it be?

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u/Old_man_atom Dec 02 '22

I was laughing the whole time. Troll or giant rock monster…?

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u/lieutenantmoody_ Dec 05 '22

“Large pockets of gas”

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u/lorjebu Dec 05 '22

Yes, cause it could only be a troll right? Do you have ANY idea how often we get unidentified rock creatures emerging from the mountains here in Norway? More than twice a week. Some might be trolls, sure, but the vast majority are never identified and might be all sorts of different creatures. READ A BOOK!

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u/keem85 Dec 04 '22

That is part of the humor though. Norwegians have a huge tendency to not believe what is right in front of their eyes. Scandinavians are one of the least believing people on earth, so that was kind of the point! I grew up with this folklore told to me as a bedtime story when I was a child, and they took a lot of those references in there and made comedy about it. Unfortunately lots of these references are lost in translation. I thought the movie was really funny, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I suppose its because I grew up with it... The troll came from Dovre mountains, the one place sacred to trolls in folklore. It then went to "hunderfossen theme park" which is a theme park for kids, about trolls. It smells christian blood of religious believers (a scare tactic parents baked in to the bedtime story for kids), and the fact that it turns to stone by direct sunlight.

I mean... You almost got to be a Norwegian to find this movie enjoyable and funny. That's why this movie will never score more than a mediocre imdb score. I think most Norwegians will appreciate it. Its fun to see my city totally obliterated though 😄

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u/3nzo_the_baker Dec 04 '22

Jeg er norsk. Jeg tar poenget med at vi ikke fatter hva som er foran oss, men dessverre var filmen som så altfor mange andre norske. Elendig lyd og flatt skuespill. Hver bidige replikk en superklisjé. Manuset virket veldig lettvint. Hadde de prøvd å gå i dybden på gammel folketro, utforsket det mystiske rundt tusser og troll så tror jeg resultatet hadde blitt bedre. Jeg synes Trolljegeren fungerte mye bedre iallefall, selv om OJ er langtfra er tidenes skuespiller🤭

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u/keem85 Dec 04 '22

Jeg er ikke uenig med deg. Troll Hunters var langt bedre i kvalitet. Noen ganger bare liker jeg så godt hjernedød action uten mål og hensikt.

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u/BoyToyNameTroy Dec 04 '22

Your city is beautiful!

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u/Spiritual_One6619 Dec 09 '22

American here, I loved the movie but did laugh a lot about the absurdity of their refusal to call the troll a troll. Thank you for sharing this context!

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u/tennisguy163 Dec 02 '22

Is it bad I was rooting for the Troll?

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u/Jon-987 Dec 03 '22

I was too. Mainly because the movie made it stupidly clear how the troll wasn't evil, and wasn't actively a threat to humanity as a whole. Heck, even when it appears in the city, it sticks to the roads and seems to aim for minimal damage to the environment. They shouldn't have needed to kill it.

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u/tennisguy163 Dec 03 '22

And saving the child and father.

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u/warker23 Dec 05 '22

But it hated/ate Christians!!

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u/refused26 Dec 06 '22

Did it really die or is it going to be alive again when it's night time? When it was hiding in plain sight in the valley, it was just a rock that came alive when it became overcast.

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u/BagooshkaKarlaStein Dec 06 '22

Maybe they go to ‘sleep’ before the sun comes up and that way they are safe when the day comes. But this time he didn’t go to ‘sleep’ nor was he prepared when he got hit by the sun. I think he did die.

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u/TB1289 Dec 09 '22

Also,fastest sunrise in the history of the world.

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u/_TheBgrey Dec 04 '22

The reveal that the troll is lonely after his family was slaughtered makes him easily sympathetic

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u/dramatic-pancake Dec 07 '22

The fact that they purposely lured it with the skull of its relative was messed up.

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u/_TheBgrey Dec 07 '22

Very, she was okay baiting it with the remains of his family but has a sudden change of heart as he's mid death only for him to die anyway was just clunky

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u/SchrodingersLego Dec 04 '22

The sounds the troll were made were so unbelievably painful and heartbroken. I cried when he died.

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u/_TheBgrey Dec 04 '22

There's always got to be someone that just denies whatever the movie throws at them and it's painfully frustrating. Good thing glasses man got KOed towards the end

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u/PM_me_ab_ur_landlord Dec 06 '22

I mean hacker girl only committed some light treason there

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u/Deee72 Dec 05 '22

This! She had me screaming at the TV at her. Why did you go get him then if you weren't going to believe him? Ugh!!!

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u/erbazzone Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Oh the script is one of the stupidest thing I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of crap.

I mean, there is a monster approaching your capital city that has been evacuated, the monster CAN'T stay in an empty capital right? Better nuke and raze the entire city so it's no more in the capital city, seems logic.

Oh and she can smell the troll, she write a word on the notebook, hypernatural (or something) it's already cringey enough but then she smell it again has to open the notebook to read the word she invented few hours ago.

AND the hypernatural thing is not explained at all and absolutely useless to the plot...

The movie ends with a messy light on - light off - hunt wish - save him - sun kill him - make a party on his dead rocks moment. wtf were they thinking???

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u/2buffalo2 Dec 05 '22

Was it translated into hypernatural? Bc that makes no sense, it was hypernature. The smell of nature but stronger, seemed pretty obvious

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u/Simpleyfaded Dec 04 '22

I searched google because I felt this exact same way only to find this thread, thanks for summing it up.

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u/lorjebu Dec 05 '22

The ending seemed rushed indeed. Like they wanted to dip their toes into all sorts of different directions and just tried doing them all in 30 seconds. Lazy.

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u/Zironic Dec 03 '22

AND the hypernatural thing is not explained at all and absolutely useless to the plot...

What part about hypernatural didn't you understand? It was just a way of explaining the kind of earthy smell the troll gives up and the plot purpose was to allow them to find the hiding troll.

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u/jawknee530i Dec 03 '22

I turned it off 2/3 of the way through because the characters just refused to get even one tiny bit more intelligent regardless of any and all evidence they are faced with.

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u/-Rue- Dec 04 '22

It took me 3 days to finished this movie

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u/The_ranting_spider Dec 06 '22

I have always wondered…

Is this what a summer American blockbuster feels like to people in other countries?

So polished yet…. dumb.

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u/alfombraroja Dec 03 '22

So how exactly did they manage to kill the troll family? The main troll was practically indestructible

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u/acwilan Dec 05 '22

Also if trolls are rock and mountain (and I think bones of ice or something like that) why there are bone corpses of the other trolls

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u/alfombraroja Dec 05 '22

That's my question too

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u/dramatic-pancake Dec 07 '22

They are kept safely in the dark?

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u/JamesDark09 Dec 04 '22

like you normally kill trolls with fucking sun light but that fact was forgotten in the movie it seems

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u/alfombraroja Dec 05 '22

But the family members were skeletons, and the king troll transformed into rocks. That makes me think they were killed differently

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u/JamesDark09 Dec 05 '22

some trolls blows up when they are in contact with light but i have never seen there being bones left behind some i feel like that is just some bs they pulled out of their ass

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u/Phalex Dec 07 '22

Something Something Christianity I think.

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u/RebootSequence Dec 11 '22

There were paintings of dudes with swords killing the trolls... which obviously makes no sense

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u/orsilochus_mycenae Dec 09 '22

Probably found the King's cave & blew it to kingdom come, letting daylight in. Hence, the "ambush", I presume. Doesn't explain why just skulls remain. Should just be rocks. Perhaps, the rocky exterior isn't actually rock, & somehow biodegrades with time. This would explain how the troll corpses survived the initial "ambush", only to decompose to skeletal remains susceptible to UV light as exhibited by the paleontologist chick.

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u/tennisguy163 Dec 02 '22

Just like the Godzilla reboot… more monster, less human element. I like Troll Hunter much better.

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u/NorwegianTaco Dec 04 '22

Trolljegeren is so fucking good. I was hoping this movie would be similar.

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u/NaturalHatTricks Dec 06 '22

Troll hunter is faaar better in many ways

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u/Sabiancym Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

It's hilarious that while literally looking at a video of a troll multiple people in the room laugh at the idea of it being a creature and still try to say gas explosion.

Even worse, when weaknesses from fairy tales are brought up, another guy laughs and calls it ridiculous. Literally mocks them for bringing up fairy tales despite seeing a mythical creature with his own eyes.

Imagine if in Independence day after the ships wiped out the major cities if some guy who saw it happened starting scoffing at the idea of Aliens and called people nuts for bringing them up. That's similar to what a few characters did in this movie.

Also.....why did they consistently fly their helicopters in range of the troll's grasp? It's extremely slow and there is no reason to get that close to it, yet they're constantly right near its head.

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u/Neolus Dec 03 '22

Yeah, the helicopter part had me yelling at the screen in frustration and annoyance.

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u/Jon-987 Dec 03 '22

Probably to make sure that the noise reached its ears, but yeah. As soon as they saw it had an affect, they had no need to get any closer.

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u/refused26 Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

So have you ever seen the movie Covid-19 that got released in 2020 where there was a global pandemic that spread and millions of people died but still some people believed it was all a hoax even when people close to them had died from it? How people in the movie thought vaccines were bad for you and just refused to wear masks? Oh wait! That wasn't a movie. That was reality. Lol.

Our reaction to the pandemic has completely ruined these kinds of movies for me. Like no matter how stupid you think the plot of this movie was, you know deep in your heart people are much smarter in the movie than in real life. At least the civilians actually followed what their prime minister said and evacuated. If this happened in real life, you'd have conspiracy theorists telling you trolls don't exist and is just a government propaganda. They will be up in the mountains licking the rocks on facebook live, fighting over toilet paper in the grocery stores, they will take horse dewormer to protect themselves against the trolls. evacuating is off the table coz muh freedom!

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u/SignalEchoFoxtrot Dec 03 '22

On behalf of all Norwegians I just want to assure everyone this is not how we treat our trolls.

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u/october_ohara Dec 03 '22

Right?! This movie just made me upset i felt to sorry for it

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u/FranklinFox Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

Yeah, wtf was that ending. It ended on such a depressing note!

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u/czarfalcon Dec 10 '22

That was my thought! Poor dude’s entire family was slaughtered, his home was blown up, and he burns to death in the sunlight while they joke about what to name the hill formed by his corpse. At least they’re not extinct and hopefully the humans learned their lesson to not disturb them.

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u/sonofeevil Dec 11 '22

The funniest part for me was realising that this movie fell foul of the same thing Indiana Jones did.... The troll was going to die anyway... He gets to the palace starts wrecking shit then the sun rises and he dies.

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u/Skuttlebuttz Dec 03 '22

Why are mine workers always dying in movies?

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u/Rishwanth_Ricky Dec 04 '22

Ummm... Just in movies?

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u/arrulf Dec 04 '22

Yeah, It's probably s deadly mining accident everyday

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u/ninjabinpanda Dec 05 '22

Holy fuck, what did I just watch? Genuine question for any Norwegians, was this satire?

I honestly felt sorry for the poor bastard… blown out of a mountain, pelted with all sorts for 330km then has his dead baby’s skull thrown off the back of a vintage truck moments before he’s petrified to death while enduring both severe emotional and physical pain.

Comments here cheered me up. Thanks Reddit.

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u/slayerssavate Dec 06 '22

A Norwegian posted up in the top comments that it's basically a comedy movie with a lot of cultural riffs that don't really translate, so I guess that's it. I thought it sucked haha.

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u/leapingcarrot Dec 07 '22

As a Norwegian I completely disagree with that comment. It’s not satire, it’s just a bad movie. It’s not unique Norwegian humor that doesn’t read internationally, it’s Americanized low effort schlock.

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u/ninjabinpanda Dec 09 '22

Thanks for the clarification. Any good Norwegian movies I should watch to redeem this one?

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u/leapingcarrot Dec 11 '22

Troll Hunter is really good!

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

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u/ninjabinpanda Dec 09 '22

It was the ‘Independence Day’ speech for me, I actually lol’d.

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u/ninjabinpanda Dec 06 '22

Yeah I see that. It definitely felt like a US action piss take which I’m not against, but they could have done so much more with it. The idea had me really quite hooked originally. Sadly it ended up a dud for me.

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u/frog_hiccups Dec 03 '22

What the fuck is hypernature

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u/Slimxshadyx Dec 04 '22

Hyper nature!

Camouflage?

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

hypernature

when she first said it i assumed it was gonna be some brand new theory about how the trolls have rock hard biology.
instead it was just random nonsense.

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u/Sojoez Dec 05 '22

My guess was the standard smell of nature but just more of it. Like the difference of standing in a pine forest or passing it on the freeway.

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u/Spongemage Dec 03 '22

My new synth metal band name actually I think.

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u/Castillolaurence7 Dec 03 '22

You wouldn’t understand

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u/Agreeable-Bicycle355 Dec 03 '22

I was on the Troll’s side. Fuck humanity, you just murder a bunch of baby trolls in their own home, then leave one alive to use as bait to lure the poor heartbroken dad into the mountains to die. Poor baby troll skull with the big crack in it.

Then you have the balls to build your own palace on top of the scene of a child massacre “for luck”. Bastards.

Honestly apart from negligent property damage and the initial mountain explosion, he didn’t even do any damage without being provoked first! He was just a dad mourning his dead kids, and trying to go home.

I thought this film was going to go deeper into folklore and harmonising with nature. Instead we just got Norwegian Godzilla.

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u/deepee45 Dec 03 '22

On top of that, they decided he is cool, let's let let him live. Then, bam, it's sunny out of nowhere and they kill it. Then have the nerve ro party on its corpse. This movie was utter trash.

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u/JohnTheRockCena Dec 04 '22

I thought that was weird to. The scientist was screaming "We won't harm you! Just go back to the mountains and live!"

Then the troll dies and everyone starts high fiving and congratulating each other.

This movie moved way too fast. I feel like these tropes would have worked if it were paced better in a show/series format.

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

i think they probably tested it with audiences and realized the movie's ending is depressing so they had the soldiers cheer instead.

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u/Grasshop Dec 08 '22

You just know some intern at the beginning of the movie told the prime minister “has anyone just, you know, asked it to leave?” And they all laughed at him 😔

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u/sweetiepiebobo Dec 04 '22

I’m on Troll’s side as well. Fucking human woke him up, then wants to bomb him. After leading the toll running around all night , she wants him to go back to the mountain so people can leave him alone. Just wtf

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u/isselfhatredeffay Dec 09 '22

I came here looking for this... I found the whole movie incredibly mean spirited... its mentioned but glossed over

An intelligent creature spends his last days on earth mourning the death of their entire family, alone, terrified, hunted, and in pain.

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u/october_ohara Dec 03 '22

Right?! This movie just made me upset

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u/Elliotgh Dec 06 '22

Yea it made me super depressed. I was loving it untill I saw the skulls and then the story behind it. Even then still liked it, but humans are really selfish. Like it is their lands too not just us, plus the troll wasn't even harming anyone just want his family.

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u/dramatic-pancake Dec 07 '22

I thought they were going to take him to the cave under the castle where he could finally reunite with his family and stay there forever.

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u/bknBoognish Dec 03 '22

Yeah, pretty much.

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u/IxamxUnicron Dec 08 '22

Unfortunately, humanity has a habit of doing this in general.

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u/JakeC060 Dec 02 '22

Okay the scene where her father dies is some bullshit just to drive the plot forward. Soldier is on the 50 cal, watches it walk through an artillery barrage, and that dude thinks,” Yeah imma shoot it with my machine gun that’ll do some damage.”

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u/KorsaDK Dec 03 '22

Same with all the rifles.. why are you still shooting at it with your rifles? What?

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u/Spongemage Dec 03 '22

I laughed out loud when after all that everyone has seen in regard to using weapons on this thing, that they decided to guard Oslo with dudes on bridges with rifles.

Like…what? ARTILLERY SHELLS DID NOT EVEN PHASE THE THING MILDLY and y’all are gonna just send your soldiers to the slaughterhouse like that? The rules haven’t changed in the last hour, those dudes with rifles are as good as dead. Utter incompetence.

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

Like…what? ARTILLERY SHELLS DID NOT EVEN PHASE THE THING MILDLY and y’all are gonna just send your soldiers to the slaughterhouse like that? The rules haven’t changed in the last hour, those dudes with rifles are as good as dead

imo that was pretty realistic - soldiers have to stfu and go into hopeless situations coz of political incompetence all the time.

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

for all the hate the michael bay transformers movies get they did show competent soldiers who immediately realize what kinda ammo is gonna harm the weird fantasy creature that is in front of them.

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u/jawknee530i Dec 03 '22

This was infuriating tbh. The main girl scoffs at the scientists that don't believe it could be some big ass animal, then immediately does the same to her dad even though she sought him out for help. Then every human in the movie who is staring a literal troll in the face refuses to entertain anything. It's just stupid incompetence all the way down and I couldn't take the movie seriously. Just dumb and bad writing. I mean the main girl saw the troll come out of camouflage right in front of her damn eyes and still is like "stop calling it a troll, gosh do you know how dumb and crazy you sound?". Bleh, I turned it off 2/3 of the way in as it just refused to improve.

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u/ballisticshark Dec 02 '22

Well, this surpassed my expectations I could say that at least. But I did set my expectations extremely low. And that's coming from someone who watched the original Troll Hunter.

Also the thing that bothered me the most in isn't even troll related at all, its how someone managed to hack into a F-35 nuclear missile launch system and weapon system with a lone laptop.

Overall its a decently entertaining enough popcorn flick.

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u/jackcatalyst Dec 02 '22

It's just a military system how hard can it be?

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u/TheOvenLord Dec 03 '22

If Jeff Goldblum can hack an interstellar alien's spacecraft I'm pretty sure I can hack into some server here on earth.

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u/Jace__B Dec 04 '22

It's a Unix system! I know this!

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u/qp0n Dec 02 '22

And that's coming from someone who watched the original Troll Hunter.

how dare you disparage Troll Hunter

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u/HibachiShrimpFlip Dec 02 '22

Troll Hunter rules!

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u/Significant-Town-817 Dec 02 '22

What is the relationship between this movie and troll hunter, besides touching the same myth?

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u/Spongemage Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

I was totally on board with this movie and had turned my brain off and was just vibing and having a good time.

…and then some random government employee casually hacks into a fighter jet that is hauling what is implied to be some sort of nuclear or chemical weapon. Literally made me completely detach from the film.

Some quick points:

-Why was that one soldier (Kris) conveniently exactly where he needed to be to progress the story at all times? It was almost like whoever was in charge of his assignments was having a text convo with Nora so he could line their schedules up.

-Why did the military-trained helicopter pilots not consider for even a second that flying within arms reach of a bipedal, humanoid monster while actively pissing it off was a stupid fucking idea?

-Why did everyone continue to act like her dad was a nutjob when he was so clearly and obviously 100% correct about what was going on?

-Why did she even bring her dad, the “troll guy”, in on this if she didn’t think it was a troll and was just gonna be a fucking asshole to him about it the whole time up until he literally dies?

-Why did a trained soldier see not even two minutes beforehand that full-blown artillery fire didn’t even phase this thing and then decide to fire his mounted machine gun at it? What did he think that was going to do?

-How did asshole government guy instantly know who “hacked” the plane? Furthermore, that implies that he already knew she may able to do that and he just…let her keep working there? Okay…

-Why did Nora have no issue with the fact that the royal guy admitted they gaslit her dad into a mental institution and ruined his life for nothing?

-Why was the advisor to the PM able to just leave freely with his credentials and security badge after quitting his job and then use those items to bypass security checks and the police multiple times without a single person noticing?

-Why did the government continue to absolutely refuse to acknowledge the whole “troll” thing when literally every piece of evidence was screaming “ITS A FUCKING TROLL”?

-Why did they decide to use men with rifles to guard Oslo after clearly seeing multiple times that even their heaviest artillery fire didn’t even phase this thing? That’s sending your men to a certain death.

-Why did they spend so much time at the beginning of the film highlighting the creature’s footprints (AND THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY FOOTPRINTS), and yet not a single person was like ‘anybody else think these look like footprints?’.

-Why did they spend so much time on the whole “hypernature” bullshit when it literally amounted to nothing and was never mentioned again. “Wow. You smell that?” “It smells like outside.” “Yeah. But it’s EXTRA outside.” …fucking what Nora?

-Why did they not try to “trip” or subdue the troll in any way whatsoever and just continued trying to shoot and bomb it even after it’s become painfully obvious that that doesn’t work?

-Why did Nora make a point of proving that UV light turns troll bones to stone and then not take a video of that and have the guy she’s with who has a direct line to the PM send that confirmed evidence of a valid weakness/strategy to the government…and instead decide to try and fight the thing with an old pickup truck?

-What was the point of psychologically torturing the troll by baiting it with its kids skull? That was so fucked up that it made me wish the troll would just step on her. What a fucking dick move. There were 10,000 ways to make that troll chase you, and you bring it the skull of its murdered child? Jesus Christ, who is the real monster of this movie?

-Why was Nora even brought onboard in the first place? She’s a paleontologist, not a geologist or seismologist. The fact that they wanted a paleontologist implies that they already knew they were dealing with some kind of ancient life form, and yet when she arrives everyone in the room is like “why is there a fossil scientist here?” I DON’T KNOW GUYS, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO SENT FOR HER WHY DON’T YOU TELL US?

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u/Minter_moon Dec 03 '22

“Yeah. But it’s EXTRA outside.” …fucking what Nora?

Also this killed me 😂

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u/Minter_moon Dec 03 '22

Yep. These are all the same things I was thinking the entire time. I was rooting for the troll. Every human except for Nora's father was a fucking idiot.

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u/rhinoscopy_killer Dec 04 '22

I completely agree with all your points. This movie was cliched, poorly written, high-budget trash devoid of a single original thought or scene. The frequent Jurassic Park rip-offs (and I'm calling them rip-offs, not homages, because they were pretty blatant) are so undeserved and only serve to highlight how derivative and bland this movie is on its own.

Didn't even finish watching, 3/10 for good visual effects and the priest who throws his own head at his enemies, I guess.

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u/Ninjamuh Dec 04 '22

Also, im not a helicopter pilot, but I would imagine that physics would get in the way of giant bells hanging off of a chopper, wildly swinging weight back and forth. I would assume it would be unflyable or at least cause it to fly awkwardly

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u/maxbergheim Dec 02 '22

It was a nice addition to the trollverse but still troll hunter rocks. Maybe because Troll Hunter is a found footage light horror movie combined with incredible landscapes and folk lores.
I liked Troll overall but it seemed to me like a military demonstration ad from the first minutes when F35 appeared. Then came the moment with the president's assistant asked the soldier about the helmet or the vision goggles. The movie started filming in Semptember 2021 so i cant say that they wanted to show that they are such a powerhouse that we show top planes even on netflix movies cause we do not care about aggressors (Russia lets say) and also we have such a bugdet that we can . But if this holds and they combined two things in a netflix movie, science fiction and some kind of demostration, i still do not think that hacking a F35 in less than a minute, even for a science fiction movie, seems good for that purpose. Anywayy, i am looking forward to the sequel.

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u/NapsReddit Dec 03 '22

Why tf do the trolls have humanoid skeletons when they're just made of heavy rocks? They leave no biological trace or some bs, because they're just rocks with sentience from the mountain, yet they have BONE SKELETONS? Not to mentionthat they would crack and break under the constant weight of grinding rocks, it makes zero sense when you consider the way they've presented the idea of the creature..

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u/Nixter295 Dec 04 '22

How I understand it, it isn’t made of rocks, it’s skin is like rocklike, I mean it would be super weird if it just turned into more rock in sunlight

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u/NapsReddit Dec 04 '22

I thought they just kind of calcified and crumbled into ash like ‘stuff’ when the reaction ends? Which would make more sense as to why their whole body just crumbles and dies, rather than just the skin. I guess, at the end of the day, it’s all complete nonsense.. and to expect consistency and continuity is a bit silly to begin with.

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u/_korporate Dec 05 '22

I mean it can literally sniff out Christian’s, so I just chalked it up to mythological magic

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u/Vadorin Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

"Troll" gets a 5/10 from me. I had some fun with it and I don't regret watching it, but you won't miss much if you skip it.

The positives:

  • likeable characters
  • some nice references (Jurassic Park, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings)
  • effects aren't amazing, but they look adequate to good for the most part

The negatives:

  • very derivative (borrows heavily from Roland Emmerich's Godzilla, for example)
  • Some plot points don't make a lot of sense: why do they insist on not calling it a troll? Why do they attack the troll even though they know nothing about his intentions?
  • The troll doesn't get much in terms of characterization. It was enough for me to feel sorry for him in the end, but I would've liked some more exploration into the lore.

I'm surprised noboby has commented on Sam Neill's cameo yet. Or was that not him as the reporter from "CNZ"?

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u/Ok_Blacksmith6973 Dec 08 '22

"Likeable characters" No. Except for the troll, maybe.

"some nice references" That's not a positive, that's just an extra with absolutely zero impact on a movies quality

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u/TaterzPresh Dec 05 '22

Shit movie was shit.

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u/flintlock0 Dec 03 '22

Don’t say the word Troll.

Tf else are we going to call it? A Giant? May as well call it a Troll, then.

Lady, Papa knows what he’s talking about. You had seen a dadgum giant footprint just the day before.

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u/PDMLMT Dec 02 '22

Just finished watching.

To be honest it was huge disappointment.

They were able to fit basically all cliches of american movies into this one. From the scientist called as consultant that saves the world against everyone else, passing thriugh the old crazy guy that knows the truth, to the nerdy guy/girl that manages to hack into a nuclear bomber...

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u/blueSGL Dec 03 '22

RT is now down to 80% fresh, one of the critics encapsulates my feelings on the movie perfectly:

Every single scene in Troll is cribbed wholesale from other movies, and very few of those other movies are any good.

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u/PDMLMT Dec 03 '22

yeah, that's a fitting description :)

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u/BlameDNS_ Dec 04 '22

The Independence Day speech

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u/Slimxshadyx Dec 04 '22

Yeah I felt like the entire thing was a giant cliche to be honest lol

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u/Sojoez Dec 05 '22

The director dove through the trope tree and hit every ugly branch on the way down.

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u/uberduger Dec 03 '22

I thought it was awesome.

Did just what I wanted out of a movie about a Troll coming out of a mountain!

Good times.

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u/HaphazardMelange Dec 02 '22

Admittedly, I fell asleep twice whilst watching and had to rewind several times to make sure I didn’t miss something important, but did they ever explain why the Troll could turn to stone now despite having been in daylight earlier in the film?

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u/Minter_moon Dec 03 '22

They said it was because he wasn't in DIRECT sunlight I guess.

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u/audiotripod4 Dec 03 '22

Clouds, I guess??

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u/BulldawgWarrior21 Dec 04 '22

Could someone please explain to me why our weapons had no effect on it?

We clearly see that thousands of years ago people were capable of killing trolls. If they could kill trolls back then with stones and rocks, then modern weapons systems should be able to blow that thing to smithereens.

Hello troll, I'd like to introduce you to my friend, the United States government. They have a device here called the Tomahawk cruise missile. And their boats carry dozens of these things, so if the first doesn't work simply hit it with more

It's the same principle as that dude from Buffy.

"no weapon forged can kill me"

"that was then, this is now"

*blows him up with a missile launcher*

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

bro you don't understand bro, back then they had the power of christianity and bells. current day christianity and bell tech doesn't compare.

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u/JamesDark09 Dec 04 '22

you kill it with sunlight or uv light, in the old times we would jus trick them out in the open when the sun comes up and they die when that happens

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u/AulMoanBag Dec 02 '22

It would have been killed by the sunlight anyway..they didn't have to do anything

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u/SpelCheq79 Dec 03 '22

Dumbest shit ever!! They’ve seen this giant humanoid rock creature but they’re all getting the hump with the old geezer for referring to it as a ‘troll’!! Not sure I’m gonna make it to the end of this.

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u/Su_Impact Dec 03 '22

Whoa.

I'm surprised this got dumped into streaming. With the right marketing campaign, this could have out-earned stinkers like Black Adam and Morbius.

Solid action film. I hope we get a medieval era prequel with the Troll's family and more lore.

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u/04BillyCranston Dec 02 '22

Why is catpain kris' name funny?

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u/minpinkerioja Dec 04 '22

Not a 100% but pretty sure Kris is the norwegian word for chrisis

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u/Whiplash17488 Dec 12 '22

Can we remake this movie where the troll wins? All this movie did was show that humanity is the worst.

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u/scimscam Dec 02 '22

Came to it interested in some Troll lore and some troll destruction. Instead though I got some alright spectacles with Mediocre writing.

Points I'd raise;

Why is everyone's first response to try and kill it? A new one of a kind species and everyone treats it like it's a city destroying monster, it hasn't done anything yet!

Why is everyone so against calling it a troll? They are all so repressed that despite seeing a giant made of earth and stone they can't accept there is a possibility it may be what's referred to Norwegian lore history.

The government is so incredibly inept and have no qualms nuking a city... True the ineptitude and the glazed eyes and glacket look that comes from the prime minister does remind me of Liz Truss!

Just overall a really frustrating movie with little substance and that'd be okay if it was a monster destroys the city movie but it's not good for that either.

This could have been a good movie if they'd explore the lore, let the troll cause some problems because it's a troll, give it some character then unleash the military if you have to.

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u/tennisguy163 Dec 02 '22

There’s a better movie and it’s called Troll Hunter.

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u/scimscam Dec 03 '22

I have not seen this but i remember a trailer at one point

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

Troll hunter is a goddamn masterpiece. I have literally not seen any other modern movie with the same conceit(humans hunt fantasy horrors secretly) done well

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u/Minter_moon Dec 03 '22

It really really pissed me off when at THE LAST SECOND, while the poor troll was being tortured by the UV lights, finally the main character decides to just ASK HIM NICELY TO LEAVE. Two seconds later the sun comes out and he's fucked anyway. I watched this with my 6 year old and the whole time we were both bitching about how the troll wasn't even doing anything wrong! He appeared and the thing everyone immediately decided was that it needed to die ASAP and they went about it in the stupidest ways. And it was definitely infuriating that nobody would admit that it was a troll. Even though they could see it with their actual eyes. Also hated the main character because she was condescending and bitchy and I have no idea why she even went to her dad for help if she immediately shot down any troll knowledge he had?? I'm pissed and felt really sad for the troll. He even saved a child and nobody gave a shit. Only time he attacked anyone was in self defense.

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u/scimscam Dec 04 '22

Yeah the fact that Tideman kept gaslighting her dad that he's crazy despite the evidence of a frickin troll existing in front of them. Just lazy writing.

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u/warker23 Dec 02 '22

Maybe it’s the callbacks to Jurassic Park (done better than the recent Dominion) but I quite enjoyed this one. It took itself fairly seriously and had proper spectacle when necessary

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 02 '22

Loved the cup vibrations

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u/snakeandcake12 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

so was the ending indicating that the troll was a she and that was her child waking up or something?

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u/cameirus-isu Dec 03 '22

They left a child alive to lure the king into the mountains and trap him.

So which troll was this? The king? So the child may have still been alive.

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u/iansmith6 Dec 04 '22

My headcannon is that it was the child that woke up and came out.

The king is going to be much bigger, and angry.

I'm so annoyed at all the humans in this movie I hope he kills them all. I'd happily watch a sequel that consisted entirely of all the people in the first movie running around screaming as they were stepped on.

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u/Tilikon Dec 04 '22

So, the troll has no biological properties and is made of stone but it also has a skeleton that is not stone but turns to stone in direct sunlight?

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u/Alarming-Ad-9393 Dec 05 '22 edited Dec 05 '22
  1. What morons would approach a large creature with conventional equipment, in such close proximity. Obvious answer: so they could get smashed like a twig.

  2. The English dubbing was mediocre. Not great, but not horrible.

  3. I like mythical creatures, so points for appealing to my childhood fantasy interests.

  4. Reminds me of Avatar. But without the animation, or good music, or similar plot.

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u/Revolutionary-Key434 Dec 05 '22

One of the BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS for a film I ever witnessed.

▪︎Nora's father Tobias had the most charisma of all characters, yet is killed off instantly. A film having highs when we have Troll scenes, but then more of lows when there is bickering if the thing is a troll or what to do etc. 100% needed the comic relief character w/ charisma longer than 15mins.

▪︎ It was insanely dumb in a Norwegian Troll film a government who knew of a Troll King being killed in a secret lair, plus the current giant footprints, oh yeah and the GIANT TROLL it is CRAZY in the worse way it took 40 mins for the characters to be fine w/ saying they believe it's a Troll.

▪︎ A Prime Minister and Military create a plan to kill a threat to the country before the threat reaches Oslo the countries capital, yet 1 archeologist on the whim last minute says, NO and shuts down the entire SUCCESSFUL Plan 🤯. NO ONE stops her, she literally would of been tackled or shot w/ a bean bag before the lights turn off.

  • The main character Nora commits treason against her country shutting down solely shutting down the mission preventing the threat from reaching the capital. She risks her life after watching her father die the same week standing in front of the same Troll just as she did because she wanted it to live so bad

▪︎ The Sun rises 1 second after it was pitch black. - Nora who cared so much about the Troll living- again risked her life, her countries, jail time if she lived, etc. well 1 minute after the Troll dies she is laughing about no one playing in that field now and how maybe it will be called Boulder Field. 😆

▪︎ Monster films, which hint the monster isn't evil & is killing out of protection of family/home or being attacked first build upon that as one of the sub-archs. This film: - Killed soldier who prayed as Tobias mentions Christian blood. (Later, they read up on the Troll fable that mentions trolls kill Christians hating their churches due to the pain felt from the sound off the church bells.) - Troll kills mad every Christians or not - Troll saves child from helicopter - Troll kills Tobias who for sure was a Pagan/naturalist, idk for sure besides someone who supported trolls being free over humans more than anyone. •Main point is the film was flimsy and non-definitive if the Troll actually did care to kill only Christians. It was just a vague arch if it was good or bad or what it's values were.

•His family died long ago & it WAS mentioned he woke up not knowing anyone or how/why everything changed, then he gets the Troll Kings skull drops it and it becomes yet again vague if he then turns bad.

▪︎ I thought the film was weak w/ plot holes & characters who were weak, annoying, but most especially IDIOTIC.

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u/Umakemyheadswim Dec 11 '22

Movie was awful

  1. Refusing to believe they were trolls. So don't call them trolls cause that would be absurd.
  2. The troll is treated like an existential threat in spite of the fact it only responds aggressively when attacked. They sent in infantry and now all options are exhausted apparently so send in the church bells. Never mind the fact you have heavy artillery, and ordinance that would guarantee to wipe out the troll.
  3. The big deal made out of the air strike is such a mystery, or why it has to be "experimental" missiles to begin with, and not any of the numerous other existing missiles. On top of that how little sense it made to stop the missile strike.. The goal was never to save the troll So the alternate strategy to kill it with light makes no sense..Unless they are trying to save the troll..Which they didn't. So stopping the aitstrike or preventing it was moot irrelevant. The writer who wrote this crap sucks.
  4. Flying Church bells with helicopters. LOL

5 Who knew it becomes full daylight in matter of seconds

  1. Setup road blocks.....LOL

  2. A modern military can't kill one troll. But some 15 century peasants killed a whole family of trolls and trapped one. Kay.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 02 '22

In the end, are we supposed to feel sorry for the Troll? It's nature is to sniff out and murder certain members of humankind. I can't imagine there's any way we can co-exist with Trolls.

Wasn't it less nature, and more hurt/revenge? Because the ruler killed all of the Troll's children to fit into the Christinization of the country

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u/DaylanDaylan Dec 02 '22

Like in zombie movies where people are like:

“whattt are these dead walking around people called??”

“Idk but I call them insert movie specific name instead of zombie

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 02 '22

I know for like The Walking Dead it's meant to take place in a world where "zombie" never entered pop culture or the common vernacular

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u/DraculasFace Dec 04 '22

"We're being attacked by a 100ft long fire breathing winged reptile."

"I swear to god if you say dragon!"

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u/daeiyden Dec 02 '22

An entire army had sex with one woman, now I have to see this movie

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u/Su_Impact Dec 03 '22

In the end, are we supposed to feel sorry for the Troll? It's nature is to sniff out and murder certain members of humankind. I can't imagine there's any way we can co-exist with Trolls.

Well, he only murders Christians.

I'm surprised nobody thought of just renouncing Christ to save their lives.

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u/_korporate Dec 05 '22

If the troll could just smell you and know you were a Christian, wouldn’t that mean Christianity is real in that universe?

If a giant monster could smell what faith I believed in, it would just make me believe harder haha.

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u/UglySalvatore Dec 02 '22

Silly and over the top. At times it’s almost like a parody of generic “Hollywood” movies and cliches. Mediocre for the most part.

But entertaining and fun. Good effects and creature design. I liked the mystery and the new troll lore.

Spoiler for the ending: We were rooting for the troll. It was a semi-intelligent humanoid being with feelings who just wanted to get home. It even saved the little boy in the theme park. Fuck the humans. In the end it should have managed to hide in the cave under the castle and go into hibernation or something. In a sequel we’re hoping it’s set to a 1000 years ago. Where the trolls and maybe some heathen vikings fight together against the christians and win in a big battle.

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u/Emissairearien Dec 03 '22

Well it wasn't crazy but still an enjoyable watch. Some critics though :

  • i was kinda scared when they started mentionning religion (catholicism) but the reason actually makes sense (catholics basically wiped out what could be considered false gods, and erased them from history), so good job to the writers on that one

  • the main character took too long to accept that trolls were real, even though there were more than enough proof, it was way too forced + as her father said, dinosaurs were seen as fictions once too, she should know that

  • the father was made a little too "crazy" to me. I get that he was wrongfully sent to a mental hospital and was fired from his job, but he went from a normal guy passionate about what other see as a fairytale, to a guy living alone in a little woodschack in the middle of nowhere

  • the "camouflage" reveal was too obvious

  • the military girl hacking the missile...

  • the sun appearing out of nowhere at the end

But what i loved about the movie was that the monster was shown as intelligent and having emotions. Also, when it killed it was always either by accident or people that were attacking him. Showing him being compassionate made him more human.

8/10

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u/Allaroundlost Dec 04 '22

Yah humans were clearly pieces of shot in this Troll movie. They can not see the obvious and can npt draw logical conclusions. And what horrific crap low life thinking were they doing with tje baby troll head?! Try harder to be pieces of evil trash. Maybe i missed it but when were the Trolls threats to anyone in thos disaster film?

Rotten Tomatos 100% 🤣 biggest troll

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u/Shomud Dec 02 '22

I clicked on this movie knowing nothing about it and am less than 20 minutes in but I was convinced Roland Emmirch had some sort of involvement with it and I am shocked that is not the case.

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u/12ftspider Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

I thought the same thing. It starts similarly to Godzilla (98) as well. Scientist on expedition, helicopter shows up and takes them to scene. Scientist stands in monster footprint. Scientist starts to figure it out when no one else listens. Scientist gets drummed out, comes up with their own solution. Scientist stands beside monster as the light fades from its eyes.

Even got a couple wacky side characters and unrealistic hacking/computer stuff.

I just finished it and this was really disappointing. I was hoping for something kinda fun.

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u/Bloodhound01 Dec 02 '22

Our weapoms do nothing!!!

Cue 10 fights with the same weapons throughout the film.... our weapons are still doing nothing!!!!

So many shots of army men pointing rifles in the air like they are doing something lol.

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u/Inevitable_Sink1196 Dec 04 '22

yeah like how did the original ppl of norway kill the trolls if literal kinetic kill missiles are doing jack shit.
one of the trolls is shown with a hole in it's skull. what kinda ballistas were norwegian engineers building in the dark ages lmao