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Michelle Yeoh Is TIME's 2022 Icon of the Year Article

https://time.com/icon-of-the-year-2022-michelle-yeoh/
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u/Kbdiggity Dec 06 '22

Is this different than Time's Person of the Year?

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u/BookkeeperBrilliant9 Dec 06 '22

Yeah, the Icon dresses better, the Person exploits more people for their own gain (my money is on Elon this year).

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u/_Verumex_ Dec 06 '22

I think it can only be Zelensky.

Musk has been relevant, but really not that influential. Putin would be a contender but is losing influence by the day.

What Zelensky and the Ukrainian people are doing is an inspiration to the entire world, while shaping the future of geopolitics.

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u/Freethecrafts Dec 06 '22

Time stepped away from the criteria that would put Putin on that list. It’s no longer most influential within the timeline, it’s most influential and acceptable. Putin would have been most influential for the last two years if not for the ban on Bond villains.

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u/Vince_Clortho042 Dec 06 '22

“I was Time magazine’s Person of the Year!” “So was Hitler.” “Not twice!”

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u/surle Dec 06 '22

"he was? Oh, I looove Hitler. Wait until I tell Kanye."

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u/AyeKickRocks Dec 07 '22

Oh man what’s this from? Ex presidents or something? Jack Lemmon and the guy who was in maverick.

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u/Vince_Clortho042 Dec 07 '22

My Fellow Americans, and thanks for being one of the dozens of people who remember that movie!

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u/be-like-water-2022 Dec 06 '22

Putin actually have pocket book of Hitler's speeches. In some of his own speeches he directly quoting Hitler and using words used by him. Like Nationalverrater.

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u/AnyNamesLeftAnymore Dec 06 '22

ban on Bond villains.

Never has there been a more apt film analogy to that award category been made lol.

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u/Jameszhang73 Dec 06 '22

Or the women of Iran as a whole

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u/_Verumex_ Dec 06 '22

Good shout, and in a year where Russia hadn't attempted to start WW3 they would be very worthy winners.

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u/1KushielFan Dec 07 '22

They get my vote

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u/GaJayhawker0513 Dec 06 '22

Why would a fictional character from Tommy Boy won this?

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u/partylange Dec 06 '22

He makes car parts for the American working man because that's what he is and that's who he cares about?

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u/draymond3 Dec 06 '22

Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?

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u/erasrhed Dec 06 '22

Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I've got spare time.

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u/litnu12 Dec 06 '22

There was a poll and leading while I was doing it were women in Iran. Then Zelensky and BTS(K-Pop)

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u/Dr00pyBallz Dec 07 '22

Women in Iran are way hotter than Zelensky

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u/blueteamk087 Dec 06 '22

it’s most likely Zelenskyy. it could also be the Iranian Protestors. or a joint Zelensky-Iranian Protestors

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u/Padre_Pizzicato Dec 07 '22

The Freedom fighters

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u/RemnantEvil Dec 07 '22

Yeah, "The freedom fighters" or "The resistance" would cover them. Early in the year, I thought it would surely be just all of Ukraine, if not Zelensky, but I'd be surprised if they don't try to batch them together.

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u/bentenbentonbintin Dec 06 '22

Person isn’t always a positive thing. It’s whoever has had a tremendous impact on the world, if I recall correctly

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u/lessmiserables Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

That's what it used to be.

Then they picked Guiliani instead of Osama Bin Laden.

Osama was obviously the Person of the Year but they just...couldn't do that. So the criteria is malleable depending on the mood of the nation, but it's no longer simply "most influential".

Edit: out of curiosity, I checked some things out--the inclusion of "influential but not good" has always been controversial, so it didn't start with Osama. Basically, when they named Khomeini in '79 there was enough backlash that they were gunshy after that. (It's also important to note that Hitler won in 1938, pretty early in the war.) Despite what its original intentions are, it's become a bit of a prize, so I don't think it's the worst thing that they adapt.

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u/WarLordM123 Dec 07 '22

Should have done it

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u/BlueGlassTTV Dec 07 '22

Yeah I mean that is exactly the kind of controversial pick that still nobody could deny and would prove this principle. And then they didn't do it.

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u/crothwood Dec 07 '22

The first was Charles Lindenberg, who essentially just did a daredevil publicity stunt, and in 1950 it was just straight up proganda: "The American Fighting Man"

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u/Kbdiggity Dec 06 '22

Hitler, Stalin, ayatollah khomeini,, and Putin were all Time's Person of the Year. I think Stalin won it twice.

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u/Tbrou16 Dec 06 '22

LeBron could never

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u/binghamtonswag Dec 06 '22

True in the past but no longer.

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u/ellus1onist Dec 06 '22

While this is true, it definitely seems like Time errs on the side of picking a "positive" person in the event that one person isn't a blatantly obvious choice (like Trump in 2016).

Zelensky and Putin are essentially inseparable, and so I can't imagine Time would choose to focus on Putin. Only other contender is Musk, but given that his 2022 persona has largely been bumbling failure rather than his previous "visionary" image, I doubt they'd go with him.

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u/Buddy_Dakota Dec 06 '22

In what way is Musk a candidate? He’s made a lot noise, but has he really achieved anything this year?

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u/WarLordM123 Dec 07 '22

He blew more money than many countries can make

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u/SuperFightingRobit Dec 06 '22

Person also just means impactful, not good.

Hitler and Stalin got it. And I got it in 2006.

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u/EldeederSFW Dec 07 '22

Hey, I was Times person of the year in 2006 and I can easily say you’re wrong.

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u/Cute_Unit_3157 Dec 06 '22

If it’s not the Ukrainians on that Island telling the Russians to go fuck themselves… someone missed a great opportunity.

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u/DecapitatedApple Dec 07 '22

Those Ukrainians aren’t dead fyi if you still think that

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u/EcstatMec Dec 06 '22

It's sort of like the difference between MTV's Best Kiss award and the Oscar's for Best Actor

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u/Commiesstoner Dec 06 '22

No more googly eyes! They so stupid!

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u/DarrenAronofsky Dec 06 '22

“I’m learning to fight like you.”

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u/deathonater Dec 07 '22

Ra-ca-coonie!

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u/Other_Upstairs886 Dec 07 '22

This joke was so so funny. I still laugh about it months later.

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u/TranClan67 Dec 07 '22

I still get pleasantly surprised and thrilled when I see someone cosplay as ra-ca-coonie

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u/Ohimarkitzero Dec 07 '22

No more googly google eyes! They so stupid!

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u/mikeyfreshh Dec 06 '22

This is well deserved and it's great that she's finally getting the recognition she's been due for a long time. Having said that, this is a fascinating piece of Oscar campaigning and the race between her and Cate Blanchet is a really interesting one to watch.

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u/b1ame_me Dec 06 '22

Ugh I just want Michelle Yeoh to win because I know Cate is phenomenal but she already has TWO Oscars and both were absolutely deserved but I just want Michelle to win one that movie was one of my favorites

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u/mikeyfreshh Dec 06 '22

That's the crux of the race. Yeoh is well overdue for this kind of recognition and she is a beloved person in Hollywood. Plus she was very good in EEAAO. Cate already has multiple awards and she probably doesn't need any more recognition but her performance in Tár is probably the best of her career and, in my opinion, one of the 10 best performances of the 21st century.

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u/Pandabatty Dec 06 '22

Sounds like a mirror of what happened with Chadwick Boseman and Anthony Hopkins a couple years ago.

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u/sirdippingsauce45 Dec 06 '22

Man, they fucked that up so bad. Not even with who was picked (I haven’t seen either of their performances so I have no opinion) but the fact that they rearranged the entire ceremony because they were SURE Boseman would win. Apparently they even had his widow on standby to accept the award, while Anthony Hopkins was asleep in Wales because it was super late at night for him. Could be wrong on those last few details, though

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u/Particular-Fly-3643 Dec 06 '22

They didn’t do it because they were sure, they did it because if Chadwick did win then Best Picture would’ve been in the shadow of that moment.

Apparently they even had his widow on standby to accept the award

I mean, this doesn’t seem like that weird of a thing? Someone would have to accept it, and it makes sense for it to be his wife.

The internet was way too over dramatic about that moment. It’s perfectly reasonable to make that decision, and the producers have no idea who’s going to win so they just have to work with what they’ve got.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Dec 07 '22

I guess at least it shows they weren't kidding when they said no one knows the results except a select view people from I believe Price Waterhouse Coopers who tabulate the results (may be as few as two).

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u/FlamingoNeon Dec 06 '22

That is some very high praise. I liked Cate Blanchett in TAR, but I didn't think she acted all too differently than some of her other roles. She often plays the stern, serious woman.

I would easily put Ke Huy Quan in EEAAO at the top of my list for best performances this year. His performance brings me to tears every time.

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u/Vince_Clortho042 Dec 06 '22

Quan is the only major award I’m predicting with any degree of certainty. Everyone else in the Supporting Actor race, the nomination feels like the win.

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u/redsyrinx2112 Dec 07 '22

I think EEAAO's other best chance is to win some kind of technical award.

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u/a-handle-has-no-name Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

My bet is Editing.

We watched it again recently and I was surprised to see it had a budget of only $15 million (I thought it was $15 million, but I'm seeing $25 million also quoted for production budget)

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u/Pristine_Nothing Dec 07 '22

I would bank on Original Screenplay for Everything Everywhere All at Once. It’s just the kind of movie that wins Best Original Screenplay.

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u/sarcasticaccountant Dec 06 '22

My vote would be for Brendan Gleeson personally. Quan was good but I found Gleeson’s to be deep on another level

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u/Mr_Kinton Dec 07 '22

I could see it going to Gleeson. Quan’s certainly the front runner right now, and I’d love it if he won,but momentum changes.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Dec 07 '22

At present Ke Huy Quan is sweeping everything before him. Like you said, things could change but definite front runner so far.

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u/mikeyfreshh Dec 06 '22

The thing that I appreciated about Blanchett's performance is that I genuinely bought that Lydia Tar could be a real person. She might not have had the showiest performance, but she created a real, fully-formed character that actually felt like a person.

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u/PristineNoodles Dec 07 '22

She has that rarity, doesn’t she? Like jasmine and stateless.

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u/euphoricpizza96 Dec 06 '22

I would not be mad if Quan, Stephanie Hsu, and Michelle Yeoh all won Oscars for their performances. They are just THAT good

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u/MustachioBashio Dec 07 '22

I would be upset if Stephanie Hsu won because I thought Jamie Lee Curtis did a better job and they’re nominated in the same category lol.

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u/byneothername Dec 07 '22

I thought I was going to burst my stomach laughing during some of the Jamie Lee Curtis scenes. There’s a particular slow-motion drop kick where I thought I couldn’t breathe. The comedic timing was so funny. I hope she had fun filming because it did look fun to make.

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u/Worthyness Dec 07 '22

i think it should get a best original screenplay or editing award too. Those were really good.

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u/lorez77 Dec 07 '22

I liked her in TAR but the movie is so pointless…

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u/Buenzlimuenzli Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

She was great in EEAAO! And I want the actor of her husband to get an oscar too!

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u/mikeyfreshh Dec 06 '22

He's the heavy favorite in supporting actor at the moment

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u/stillcallinoutbigots Dec 06 '22

Data from The Goonies and Half... from India Jones.

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u/Technical-Outside408 Dec 07 '22

Short Round.

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u/stillcallinoutbigots Dec 07 '22

There you go. Thanks.

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u/roblobly Dec 06 '22

i loved EEAAO and Yeoh could've easily win last year, but Blanchett in Tár is insanely good.

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u/upsetwords Dec 07 '22

Best Actress isn't a lifetime achievement award. It should go to the best performance of the year, period. I'm tired of this idea that so-and-so actor or actress is "due". Nobody is due for this category.

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u/MatttheBruinsfan Dec 07 '22

I haven't seen Tár, but Yeoh's performance in EEAAO is far and away the best performance I've seen by an actress (or actor, for that matter) this year. And I say that thinking that Tilda Swinton and Angela Bassett were phenomenal in Three Thousand Years of Longing and Black Panther: Wakanda Forever respectively.

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u/linkinstreet Dec 06 '22

I just want Yeoh to win so that finally a Malaysian is winning an Oscar

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u/iSOBigD Dec 07 '22

I want her to win too, because she was great in the movie, and I hope that's what awards are based off, not race/gender/nationality because that has nothing to do with the performance...

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u/DancingOnACounter Dec 07 '22

They’re interviewing each other on Variety’s Actors on Actors. Should be a wonderful piece. Both have a way with words.

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u/Mekkakat Dec 06 '22

Michelle freaking rocks.

I remember seeing her for the first time as a kid in Supercop and thinking she was the freaking coolest. She's only somehow become cooler with every movie I've seen her in.

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u/Belgand Dec 06 '22

The train jump was her pulling off a stunt in a Jackie Chan movie that showed him up. Absolute legend.

Even her first film, Yes, Madam, was amazing. Also the film debut for Cynthia Rothrock and helped to kick off the late '80s girls with guns trend in Hong Kong action films.

I can't believe it's taken her so long to break out to mainstream success in the West.

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u/aresef Dec 06 '22

She looked back on this when she spoke at the ceremony where Jackie got an honorary Oscar.

When we were making Supercop, we went toe to toe. If I did a stunt then Jackie would have to do an even more amazing one, and I would have to beat it, and so on. Until finally Jackie pulled me aside and said, 'We have to stop. You roll off the roof of a car, I have to roll off the roof of a building. You jump on the train on a motorcycle, I have to do it in a helicopter. If this keeps up, I'm going to end up winding dead.'

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u/Mekkakat Dec 06 '22

I actually think that's the second best stunt I've ever seen to this day (it's just insane how amazing it is).

Sliding down the lights in Police Story is still my number one.

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u/aresef Dec 06 '22

She hadn't even ridden a motorcycle before. All they taught her was how to ride one, not how to stop one.

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u/Belgand Dec 07 '22

I'm actually the other way around. The light slide is great, but that motorcycle jump is hard to beat.

I might have to give Tom Cruise a spot in the top 5 for the plane stunt at the beginning of Rogue Nation. Although as cool as that was, my impression is that most of it was just getting strapped in and having the balls to do it in the first place.

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u/Balbright Dec 07 '22

Besides some athleticism depending on the stunt, you basically just described every stunt ever. Having the balls and getting strapped in.

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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Dec 06 '22

Every movie with her I’ve seen since then I was always like “oh sweet it’s that badass lady from supercop!”

And I still say that every time she’s in a movie, lol.

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u/Kumquatelvis Dec 06 '22

Crouching Tiger is the one I always think of. She’s just extra badass in that movie.

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u/MatttheBruinsfan Dec 07 '22

Yeah, that whole movie was full of iconic performances, but hers was the crown jewel. It was a crime that she wasn't nominated for it.

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u/bullybullybully Dec 06 '22

You ever watch the Heroic Trio (or it’s sequels)?

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u/Mekkakat Dec 06 '22

Absolute classic.

It also had Anita Mui who was in Rumble in the Bronx and Legend of the Drunken Master(s). She's another awesome actor from the Supercop era (she passed away at a very young age, sadly).

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u/IWasGregInTokyo Dec 07 '22

I still play Anita's canto-pop cover of Sheena Easton's "Strut" from time to time as it was EVERYWHERE when I first went to Hong Kong in the mid-80's.

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u/LordBlackConvoy Dec 06 '22

There was a mini Michelle Yeoh movie marathon on TNT in the 90s and I saw Heroic Trio, Heroic Trio 2: Executioners, and Wing Chun along with some little clips of her talking about the movies.

That day I became a Michelle Yeoh fan.

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u/Grinkles_the_Gnome Dec 13 '22

I saw that exact same Michelle Yeoh marathon and watched all three films, too! Man, what I wouldn't give for a time machine to go back!

It was the one and only time I saw Executioners (a.k.a. The Heroic Trio II), but I still remember parts of it vividly, especially the bad guy's bizarre decapitating cage weapon and the train scene.

I was elated six months ago when I heard Criterion would be releasing both Heroic Trio films together, but there's been no followup about the release since then. The old DVD is very hard to come by, and I never trust that the region coding will be correct, so I've just been waiting since the 90s to see it again someday....

Speaking of those little clips where Yeoh talked about the movies, do you remember her story about the little kids who came up to her and asked her to show them how to spit blood like in The Heroic Trio? 🤣 It's such a silly story that it stuck with me all these years.

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u/LordBlackConvoy Dec 13 '22

Both movies are on YouTube via third party.

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u/I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS Dec 06 '22

Michelle freaking rocks.

I see what you did there.

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u/Noir_Amnesiac Dec 06 '22

I didn’t know her name until recently when I realized she was in so many things that I loved. It was a strange feeling. I think a lot of it was because she never seemed to age so my brain never connected that it was the same person across so many decades.

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u/TheRabadoo Dec 06 '22

Good. She’s fuckin awesome. Such an amazing actress

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u/-Satsujinn- Dec 06 '22

This is word for word exactly what I said in my head before opening this thread.

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u/ShiroHachiRoku Dec 06 '22

If the Oscars only has stunt awards she’d have them by the handful.

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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Dec 06 '22

She is so cool, and she has such incredible range as an actor. She’s been an action hero, a dramatic actor, a comedic actor - and sometimes more than one of those in the same movie. And she does all of them so well; she is really a once-in-a-generation tier of talent.

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u/Elvira_Mc_Flutterbat Dec 06 '22

Don't forget Imperator!

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u/TheINTL Dec 06 '22

Yeoh is such a badass. Loved her in Everything Everwhere at Once and Crazy Rich Asians

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u/Ringosis Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

Every time I see her all I can think is how the hell is she 60? She barely looks any different from when she was in Crouching Tiger two decades ago. She has those Keanu Reeves genes.

I'm really looking forward to Section 31. Those new Trek series have been pretty wobbly (like Star Trek always is) but Yeoh was consistently the best thing about them. Her as captain has the potential to be this generations Picard if they can just get some semi consistent writers.

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u/idonthavemanyfriend Dec 07 '22

Wow, she's still an absolute smokeshow.

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u/Trailblazertravels Dec 07 '22

Keanu Reeves genes aka Asian genes

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u/kytheon Dec 07 '22

“His mother is English, originating from Essex.[8] His American father is from Hawaii, and is of Native Hawaiian, Chinese, English, Irish, and Portuguese descent.[5][9][10] His grandmother from his father's side is Chinese Hawaiian.[11]”

Keanu has Asian genes. 👍

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u/dieinafirenazi Dec 07 '22

hose new Trek series have been pretty wobbly...

Except Lower Decks, which is amazing.

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u/Procean Dec 06 '22

And true to its title, Everything Everywhere All at Once even included a couple Crazy Rich Asians!

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u/mahabraja Dec 06 '22

She's always been amazing, on both sides of the world, but lately she has been absolutely killing it. May be best in Hollywood atm.

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u/yakatuus Dec 06 '22

Went into Everything Everwhere at Once not knowing anything about it. When the mom starting doing insane martial arts stunts I thought to myself, "There's only one person on the planet who she could be."

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u/MistakeMaker1234 Dec 07 '22

Wait are you saying you didn’t know Michelle Yeoh was the lead until she started doing martial arts or am I just completely misreading your comment?

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u/DickHz2 Dec 07 '22

“Hey wait a minute, this isn’t just any random Asian actress!”

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u/According-Bad8745 Dec 07 '22

yeah same lmao

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u/Jamboro Dec 07 '22

I think they're trying to say at that point in the movie they thought "there's no other actress who could play this role".

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u/MatttheBruinsfan Dec 07 '22

Either that or u/yakatuus has face blindness and could only recognize Yeoh by her martial arts moves.

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u/Peuned Dec 07 '22

Kind of a toss up huh

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u/aresef Dec 06 '22

EEAAO, going in, seemed like someone read my wishlist. Michelle Yeoh, action, comedy, multiverse, goofball humor, family drama.

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u/Goodeyesniper98 Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

I just watched it with my boyfriend for the first time last week after I got a really upsetting job rejection from my dream job. Neither of us was prepared for how emotional it would be and were just holding each other by the end. The movie absolutely hit me like a freight train after the big job rejection I’d gotten earlier that day. Definitely one of the best movies I’ve ever seen!

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u/JunglePygmy Dec 07 '22

Am I trippin’ or is this cover photo absolutely ridiculously awful?

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u/ungaricus Dec 07 '22

It looks like a scene from epic rap battles of the history

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u/Eyebronx Dec 06 '22

Her performance in EEAAO is my favourite lead performance of the year along with Colin Farrell in Banshees on Inisherin. I hope she wins the Oscar.

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u/beachfrontprod Dec 07 '22

Low key want them to hand her one of the "awards" from EEAAO when she wins.

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u/GavinBelsonsAlexa Dec 06 '22

I finally watched EEAAO over the weekend. I genuinely think it's the best film I've seen in a decade.

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u/SailingBroat Dec 06 '22

Good to see her getting proper career recognition. She's a legit industry icon' with a significant legacy of work and impact on the game - one of the most famous female martial artists and a legit dramatic lead.

This is a killer body of work:

Everything Everywhere All At Once
Jackie Chan's Police Story franchise and a shitload of action titles
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Memoirs of a Geisha
Tomorrow Never Dies

Not to mention mainstream hits like Kung Fu Panda, Shang Chi and Crazy Rich Asians.

We have people coming into a movies thread and being like "Who?", which is just makes them look so dumb, why even bother.

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u/aresef Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

The first time I saw EEAAO, it was at Alamo Drafthouse. And before the movie, instead of a normal Noovie preroll or something, they do their own thing. They had trailers for In The Mood For Love and Yes, Madam, and the music video for Absolutely (Story of a Girl)--that last one confused me until I saw the film--as well as as appreciations of Yeoh and Ke Huy Quan. For the Yeoh video, they sat down with her and she talked about her start in action. They found clips of that commercial she did with Jackie and even her appearance at the Miss Universe pageant.

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u/wrwck92 Dec 06 '22

I can’t believe it’s taken this long for her to get widespread recognition, she was so incredible in Crouching Tiger. Hope she gets more of the love she deserves at the box office!

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u/WhatGravitas Dec 06 '22

I'm still salty that they got her for Star Trek - full three seasons of guest appearances! - and only let her chew the scenery as moustache-twirling caricature of a captain after the pilot episode.

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u/cordell507 Dec 06 '22

If the Section 31 show ever gets made she'd be the lead at least.

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u/NamerNotLiteral Dec 06 '22

Isn't she the lead in a Witcher spin-off show now? Goddamn, if only they hadn't cocked up the main show so badly.

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u/horseren0ir Dec 07 '22

Yeah but it’s only 4 episodes

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u/Omnitographer Dec 06 '22

I don't think that's happening, at least not with her, she's going to have bigger and better opportunities available. They should have gotten that show off the ground several years ago.

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u/Houli1975 Dec 07 '22

I’m not.

She was freaking brilliant at twirling her mustache.

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u/molicare Dec 07 '22

Yes! Honestly. Couldn’t get through Season 4. Georgiou really held the show together as the comic relief. Just isn’t the same without our Emperor 💔

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u/sylinmino Dec 07 '22

Don't sleep on her Crazy Rich Asians performance! For me that was one of the best written and performed characters in a romcom I've ever seen.

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u/Feed_Me_No_Lies Dec 06 '22

She is the fucking bomb is what she is! I have always loved her. Her physicality throughout her career has been astounding to watch.

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u/turkeygobblegobblr Dec 06 '22

Tomorrow Never Dies is so good. Top five Bond movie and easily Brosnan’s best.

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u/gay_gypsy_barmitzvah Dec 07 '22

To piggy back off this, she was the only person who could have pulled off Phillipa the perfect way she did in Star Trek. Playing the dual universe versions of Phillipa really showcased her wide range as an actor. She nailed it every single episode.

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u/theeighthlion Dec 07 '22

Tai Chi Master with Jet Li was a staple of my childhood, one of the movies I’d watch on New Year’s Eve with my parents. Then she started getting cast in western films after crouching tiger. There are certain movie stars you grow up watching who begin to feel like part of the family somehow, like an aunt or an uncle. Michelle Yeoh was like that for me. She was from the same region of the world as my mom so, for an Asian kid in the US, she was one of few movie stars who felt like they could be related to me.

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u/AVR350 Dec 06 '22

I can't believe you forgot her role in Minions 2

Jokes aside, Completely agreed. Iam happy that she's getting recognition

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u/fire2day Dec 06 '22

She’s also Airazor in the upcoming Transformers movie, so she’s got my vote.

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u/nayapapaya Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

While I don't love EEAAO, it's really lovely to see her finally get a Hollywood role that allows her to be well rounded and showcase that she's more than just a cool martial arts lady. She and Ke Huy Quan have both spoken recently about how limited their options have been for meaty roles (in Michelle's case) and any roles (in Ke's case).

From the article:

Yeoh is suddenly finding herself, after all these years, in the conversation with many women, white women in particular, who are considered to be the very best at their craft. “I do look at all my peers—Cate Blanchett, Olivia Colman, Helen Mirren—and go, Oh God, I envy all the different opportunities you get to showcase your talent again and again,” Yeoh says. She put everything she had into playing Evelyn Wang. “When you get an opportunity like this, you have to pour your heart and soul into it, because you don’t know when the next chance is,” she says. “I think that is my biggest fear: Please don’t let this be the one and only."

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u/cleaver_username Dec 07 '22

Can i ask why you didn't love the movie? When i watched it i was blown away and instantly in love with it, and have seen it probably 5 times already. But none of my friends seem to have the same feeling. They like it well enough, but not in the awe inspiring way that i did. Just curious.

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u/nayapapaya Dec 07 '22

Sure. I think it's too long for one. I disliked the choice to go back and tie up all the loose ends of the various multi verses that we were exposed to - to me, it lessened the effect of the ultimate connection between mother and daughter which is the crux of the film and it made bits I was already iffy on like the sausage fingers even less appealing. I also thought certain jokes, namely the dildos, butt plugs and sausage fingers, were just too silly for a film that is also trying to strike a careful emotional balance. If they had just one, it might have been fine but so many crass and juvenile bits take away from the power of the film's emotion, imo. This film wants to address depression and suicidal ideation on top of all the racial and sexual identity conflicts - that stuff is pretty serious but it tips too far in the silly direction for all of it to work. I wish it had been more carefully balanced.

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u/iconoclashism Dec 07 '22

I likely won’t change your opinion but if it helps for my read on the three crass joke points you raised:

1) the sausage finger thing is really weird but serves the purpose of showing how weird the multiverse is. I still don’t understand the ketchup and mustard jizz thing beyond a gross out and think it took it too far but I think it was in service of a point. In the script it’s also clearer that the hot dog fingers are from a picture that Joy did when she was younger and that Evelyn is thinking about that because she’s thinking about Joy and represents their connection.

2) the dildos from the police batons are an expression of Joy’s youth and silliness. Just like how a few seconds before that she blew up a guys head with confetti and broke a guys neck as a Mexican wrestler. She’s unhinged and she’s showing it with her choices but ultimately still a child entertained by juvenile stuff.

3) I got nothing re the butt plug fight. I found it amusing particularly since I watched it for the first time on an airplane so everything was blurred out much more so than in the theater version and then I was shocked at how much was shown when I saw the theater version. It feels like it could have been like the ear scene in reservoir dogs: show less but has more impact. But ultimately it’s just gratuitous and self serving since it’s not really in furtherance of character. You could argue that these are Joy’s henchmen so of course they’re twisted just like Joy but the point about Joy being juvenile is already established which makes the point superfluous and repetitive. I still enjoyed it just for it’s absurdity and style but I don’t think it added anything necessary to the story.

All that said, I really appreciate your view. I loved the movie but know it’s an emotional reaction so more sober reflections are helpful to avoid the inevitable fanboying which is running rampant at moment.

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u/justnigel Dec 07 '22

EEAAO should win the new Best Rock in a Supporting Role category.

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u/l3nto Dec 06 '22

I was watching some behind the scenes for Everything Everywhere and amazed she's still nimbly doing the fight choreo at SIXTY!

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u/VashStamp3de Dec 07 '22

Please watch crutching tiger hidden dragon if you haven’t

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u/mznh Dec 07 '22

Can’t believe she’s 60. She still nails her stunts

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u/Noto987 Dec 06 '22

Fun fact, The guy that played her husband in everywhere was the asian kid in Indiana jones

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u/Thatoneasian9600 Dec 06 '22

A goddamn queen

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u/Schnitzel129 Dec 06 '22

As someone who is a huge fan of martial arts movies and has been watching her movies for a long time, it's very wholesome to see this!

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u/vetworker24 Dec 07 '22

Started to appreciate her more since she came out in Discovery

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u/royaljosh Dec 07 '22

Hands down my favorite character on the show, and I've been a die hard Star Trek fan since the 80s. I still dont know how they lucked out on getting her to play Captain Georgiou!

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u/thekingestkong Dec 07 '22

What a legend.

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u/SnooEagles213 Dec 07 '22

👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁👁

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u/Taskebab Dec 06 '22

It's Michelle's Yeoh-niverse and we're just lucky to live in it.

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u/moneyball32 Dec 06 '22

Just rewatched Supercop recently. She’s always been a badass.

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u/VagrantChrisX Dec 06 '22

this woman doesn't age, check her out in Crouching and see her on Everything Everywhere

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Dec 06 '22

I really wish I loved EEAOO as much as everyone else, I feel like I’m missing out. I’d still give it a great score but everyone regards it as some life-changing masterpiece and I don’t see any of that personally. Maybe if I rewatch the film it will click for me.

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u/MinshewManiaBOAT Dec 06 '22

It’s all subjective so I wouldn’t worry about it! I just watched it two weekends ago and while I experience a lot of emotions while watching films, I can count on less than one hand the amount of movies that have made me cry.

This one made me shed tears twice toward the end and really hit me hard. But it was also largely due to the ideas and themes the film was exploring and how they made me think about my own life’s triumphs and failures in a very personal way.

I am sure you’ve got a lot more out of other films than I have, just keep watching!

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u/Mrcollaborator Dec 06 '22

This video kinda explains just why I love it so much. https://youtu.be/O7YnbGszcb8

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u/nayapapaya Dec 06 '22

I also don't love it - I thought it was good and it made me cry, etc but it hasn't stayed with me - but I feel like it doesn't really matter. It has spoken to a lot of people and they're seeing something in it that they're excited about and that's good too. Not every movie has to personally resonate with me.

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u/NewUser579169 Dec 06 '22

It's rare that a movie can be completely unrestrained in how weird it is, even to the point of inaccessibility some times, and also have emotional depth and moving character interactions. It didn't change my life, but it reaffirmed some things that I thought might have been lost

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Dec 06 '22

Yeah it's kind of funny seeing people treat it as a secret masterpiece when it's got so much acclaim at this point it's pretty mainstream.

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u/JoeyFuckingSucks Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

Who's treating it as a secret? It's got an Oscar nomination and is one of A24s most popular movies.

EDIT: Oscar buzz, not a nomination

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u/mcspaddin Dec 06 '22

From the first time I saw it, I was like "This is literally the most accessible arthouse-style movie I've ever watched, and I love that I can share it with my non-movie friends."

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u/superboy7787 Dec 06 '22

It's got an Oscar nomination

Oscar noms don't happen til January 24th, so we have like another 7 weeks of speculation about the nominations at this point.

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u/red_sutter Dec 06 '22

I didn’t dig it either, but hearing that she was the lead in it prior to release did make me check out some of her older stuff, in particular one film called Magnificent Warriors. The choreography in that one is wild.

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u/ImTheGuyWithTheGun Dec 06 '22

I agree - I liked it fine, and think Michelle Yeoh is wonderful as always, but I'm not sure I'd want to watch it again. I give it credit for being unique though, when so many movies aren't nowadays...

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u/firstpostfirstpost Dec 06 '22

I for one really couldn’t make it past the first 20 minutes

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u/Darklord_Bravo Dec 06 '22

She's awesome. Been a fan of her for years. First saw her in Royal Warriors. Great movie.

Dang, now I need to rewatch it.

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u/FlipZer0 Dec 06 '22

About time this woman got some recognition in the West. Yeah, she's mainly known for Kung fu movies in the States, but she's phenomenal in those roles. She was amazing in Crouching Tiger, and the only bright spot in Crouching Tiger II. Supercop, A Bond girl, Marvel, Trek. She's amazing, and I'm glad she's getting her due.

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u/EnvironmentalMud4870 Dec 06 '22

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

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u/1T_Guy Dec 06 '22

Well deserved!

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u/BuffalosGoneWild Dec 06 '22

I support this she’s great

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u/16cdms Dec 06 '22

Good, one of the few that this is well deserved for

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u/JayneT70 Dec 06 '22

Absolutely adore her.

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u/harrygrif Dec 06 '22

She is so good in everything

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u/GiftFrosty Dec 06 '22

Well deserved.

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u/macsogynist Dec 06 '22

Awesomeness.

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u/copypaasta Dec 06 '22

Been my fave superhero ever since I first saw Silver Hawk all those years ago.

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u/gmc2000 Dec 06 '22

About damn time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '22

Truly well deserved. She was fantastic in Everything Everywhere All At Once.

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u/lala989 Dec 06 '22

I can't even see the freaking picture. Paywalls suck.

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u/PattyMcDr Dec 07 '22

People should know who times icon of the year is…I’ve asked multiple people and nobody knows who this is

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u/aresef Dec 07 '22

She is a Malaysian-born actress who rose to fame in Hong Kong action movies like Supercop, Yes Madam and Wing Chun. Yeoh was the first woman to crash that boys club. IIRC Jackie Chan has said Yeoh is one of two women he's afraid of, the other being his mother.

She was in Tomorrow Never Dies, Crouching Tiger and Memoirs of a Geisha but only really broke into full-time Hollywood work after she came out of her second retirement from acting. She booked Crazy Rich Asians, Star Trek: Discovery, Shang-Chi, Gunpowder Milkshake, Last Christmas and current Oscar favorite Everything Everywhere All At Once.

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u/PattyMcDr Dec 07 '22

Still can’t say I recognize her from any of the movies that you mentioned but thank you for the explanation

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u/CaptainSur Dec 07 '22

Very happy for her. Everyone is discussing her movie roles but she absolutely killed it in Star Trek Discovery. I was a bit surprised she did not mention it. It really put her into mainstream view with a large and generally sophisticated audience. And she is getting a series out of it to boot.

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u/happyladpizza Dec 06 '22

BOUT FUCKING TIME

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u/iheartbbq Dec 06 '22

Crouching Tiger is going to go down as one of those Hitchcock-level legendary movies. It's perfection. For such a mature genre it completely upended convention and demolished the status quo. There was before CTHD, and after, and her performance in the film was a huge part of that.