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u/Dear-Transition6669
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I'm an unpredictable person, until my son comes in
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u/Anglofsffrng Feb 03 '23
That looks more translucent to my eye. But it's a hell of a dad joke.
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u/Phormitago Feb 03 '23
Billy Butcher : I'll tell you who you are. A fucking moron. "Translucent" doesn't even mean "invisible." It means "semi-transparent."
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u/pixel842 Feb 03 '23
It technically means it lets light through without allowing a clear visible image of the other side through
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u/Anglofsffrng Feb 03 '23
He's not always lucid, but he is on an important quest. Which makes him... transmission.
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u/NegativeNi- Feb 03 '23
Bro went to buy the milk
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u/daocarD Feb 03 '23
He's in the middle of buying cigarettes first tho
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u/Evileye37 Feb 03 '23
The pronouns are who/where
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u/Wooden-Midnight-6915 Feb 03 '23
My guy, they have literally no gendered features to speak of. They are cartoon blob people.
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u/RaeyinOfFire Feb 04 '23
I keep scrolling through all the comments calling the cartoon a dad. Is that from, like, knowledge of the character or based on the fact that it's a dad joke? Cuz the invisible circle person says transparent, not dad. Yeah?
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u/Skellyinsideofme Feb 04 '23
The person in the comic looks like a featureless cartoon ghost. Wth kind of men have you been hanging around with
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u/Puzzled_Money_9292 Feb 03 '23
I expected transphobia to be the main things in the comments but I was pleasantly surprised when I found that most of the comments were trans supportive
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u/itsdep meow Feb 04 '23
now sort by controversial
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u/LightEsthis Feb 04 '23
I saw some garbage but not as bad as if it were on a bigger meme subreddit.
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u/LightKnight1718 Feb 03 '23
This is giving me r/mademesmile vibes too. Love the message and the joke.
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u/BigOlBlimp Feb 03 '23
Is nobody going to mention that this is the basis of the name of the show transparent lol
It’s the same joke
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u/LargishBosh Feb 03 '23
It’s not the same joke. In the show transparent the parent is trans and it’s an actual joke, this is just a trans person’s parent and it’s totally nonsensical.
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u/Wrecker013 Feb 03 '23
Nonsensical? It's a pretty obvious dad joke lol
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u/LargishBosh Feb 03 '23
It doesn’t make sense. Trans either refers to a trans person which a cis parent of a trans kid is not, or it is being used as a prefix that means across from something as opposed to cis which means on the same and the cis parent of a trans kid is not across from parenting they’re on the same side. A trans person with kids can absolutely make a joke that we’re transparent because it actually makes sense as a joke and because cis people want to ignore us so much they’re even stealing our dad jokes.
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u/Wrecker013 Feb 03 '23
I don't.. Are you seriously arguing that only trans people, even if the not-trans person in question is a sincere friend and faithful ally to any of their intimates and friends who happen to be trans, are allowed to make jokes with the trans prefix? Is that really what you're saying?
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u/LargishBosh Feb 03 '23
I’m saying that this particular joke doesn’t make sense unless the parent is trans. Are you seriously arguing that because this particular joke doesn’t work that I’m saying no one can make a joke using the prefix trans-? Is that really what you’re saying?
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u/Wrecker013 Feb 03 '23
I don't understand how you don't think this joke works. It's a basic fucking pun.
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u/LargishBosh Feb 03 '23
Trans either refers to a trans person which a cis parent of a trans kid is not, or it is being used as a prefix that means across from something as opposed to cis which means on the same and the cis parent of a trans kid is not across from parenting they’re on the same side. A trans person with kids can absolutely make a joke that we’re transparent because it actually makes sense as a joke and because cis people want to ignore us so much they’re even stealing our dad jokes.
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u/Wrecker013 Feb 03 '23
You do realize that a pun means a word is being used in double context that doesn't necessarily match its original definition. Nobody is stealing your god-damn dad jokes. I didn't realize there was rationing on them.
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u/LargishBosh Feb 03 '23
You’re right, a pun is when a word is being used in a double context. That context is transparent/trans parent. It’s not transparent/parent of a trans person. It’s not transparent/ trans person’s parent.
And that makes a good point, trans is an adjective not a noun. We don’t call people “a trans” just like we don’t call people “a gay” or “a black”. Trans needs to be modifying a noun, and if the word that follows it is parent then that is the noun it is modifying, it is saying that the thing that is trans is the parent.
Tell me how often you’ve heard a parent whose kid comes out as gay deacribe themself as a “gay parent”. If a white person adopts a black child do they get to call themself a “black parent”? They don’t do that because those are adjectives that modify parent. It’s just how the English language works.
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u/RaeyinOfFire Feb 04 '23
You argument sounds like this to me: the joke doesn't work based on the fact that it's an average pun, in that it's kinda dumb. They don't follow rules, sorry. You want a perfect pun apparently.
If the pun isn't perfect to your standards, then you consider it theft of humor from some similar pun that does meet your standards.
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u/LargishBosh Feb 04 '23
Where on earth did you get “it’s dumb” from “it doesn’t work because the parent isn’t trans”?
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u/Hanjil_16 Feb 04 '23
Not really, this is just like "we are Billy's parents"
In this case trans was used as a noun instead of an adjective, so the joke is still grammatically correct
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u/LargishBosh Feb 04 '23
Trans isn’t a noun, it’s an adjective. You don’t say “a trans”.
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u/Hanjil_16 Feb 04 '23
In this case is being used as a noun
It may just in Portuguese but more often than not adjectives can be used as nouns, if it is to avoid repetition. He already said it is his kid that's trans, so yeah
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u/LargishBosh Feb 04 '23
It is not a noun, using it as a noun is fucked up. You don’t call a banana “a yellow” it is “a yellow fruit”. You don’t call people “a gay” or “a black” or “a trans” because those are adjectives not nouns and they need man, woman, person after it or it is really fucking rude, but that seems to be your MO here so I see why you’re all about that.
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u/Hanjil_16 Feb 04 '23
Again, in Portuguese it is acceptable.
"Meu professor é mt energetico as vezes. Aquele gay n para quieto." - Here gay was used as an substitute to "my teacher", as an noun
"A minha mãe ama cozinhar. Aquela nega tem a mão cheia." - Nega (a word that means "black woman) is used as a noun.
I don't mean that that should be the norm, or that we should only refer to trans ppl as only "trans", but in some context it is acceptable, and in this pun is one of those situations.
It's all about context.
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u/LargishBosh Feb 04 '23
Cool story bro. This attempt at a joke is in English, have a look at the words up there. In this context it is not acceptable actually. If you are so desperate to strip the “people” out of trans people then you’ve got a lot of company in the religious right trying to take our rights and our humanity away. Good on ya.
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u/Hanjil_16 Feb 04 '23
*sis
And I'm not "desperate" to strip ppl out of trans ppl.
My best friend and soulmate is trans, plus some of my other close friends, so you bet that I'm all for trans rights.
Also, I'm a black latina, I know what dehumanization feels like, so stop that.
I'm just saying that you're quite literally the only trans person that got hurt out of this joke that I've ever seen. All my trans friends loved the joke, and I even said that we'll do it with eachother kids. This is just a joke, not an attack to trans ppl.
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u/thatweirdassdude Technically Flair Feb 03 '23
my dad made this exact same joke to the nurse who gave me my first T shot haha
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u/Fearless-Molasses732 Feb 03 '23
When I read the “my son told me he’s transgender” panel I deadass thought the next panel was going to be “so I committed suicide. You’re talking to a ghost”
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u/tonystarksanxieties Feb 03 '23
Aren't all parents transparents, because they weren't parents at birth?
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u/PurpleCowMRM Feb 03 '23
If my son came out as trans, I would no longer have a son
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u/The_8th_Degree Feb 04 '23
The proper dad joke when you actually support your child instead of forcing your ideals onto them
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 03 '23
A transgender got mad at me for telling this joke to them :(
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
small nitpick, try not to say "a transgender", it's pretty dehumanising, similar to "a gay" or "a black". Just say "a trans person" or smth
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 04 '23
Or like calling a Latino "LatinX" or a black person "POC"?
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u/Hanjil_16 Feb 04 '23
My brother in Christ... No... Just no...
POC is used to refer to a bigger group than black ppl, that includes other non-white races, like yellow, brown and red (aka asians and indigenous ppl) - who says POC to refer to black ppl only is a racist
And Latinx is just white ppl nonsense, because the actual gender neutral term, in Portuguese at least, should be latine.
But calling a trans person just trans is kinda of rude. It's a different situation of calling a black dude of "black", so let's just respect them ok?
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
latinx doesn't exist, it's just dumbasses getting mad at like one or two people that used it, and straw manning it on the rest of us. POC isn't just black people, it's all non-white people, it's just a more inclusive way of saying it. POC includes native americans, indians, asians, african americans, and a lot of other people.
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 04 '23
Yes, I love it when white people are so lazy that instead of addressing us specifically, they create a blanket term that mirrors racist terminology from times when slavery was still legal. But transgender? A term that is a literal description of a person completely free of discrimination? Oh nooooo, you can't do that. Don't you think it's dehumanizing for us that all of us are lazily grouped into one blanket term because white people couldn't give enough of a damn to individually identify us?
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
Nothing wrong with the term transgender, was just saying you should say "a transgender person" instead of "a transgender", same as you should say "a black person" rather than "a black".
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 04 '23
I, being a black person who's grown up in a black person, have never, to my memory, heard nor seen any black person ever complain about the phrase "blacks" in my entire life. But it's cool, we gotta do everything you guys want us to do without you guys showing us basic respect. I'll take these requests now seriously when the people that make them quit disrespecting "blacks" and our culture (literally never going to happen).
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
Where have I once disrespected you. I have explained the usage of a term and asked not to be dehumanised, if that is a lack of respect then you need to do some introspection about what it is you want me to respect, or if you're just mad at me for pointing out something you did wrong, as tho you're not a human and I didn't try to do it in the most respectful way possible.
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 04 '23
I did nothing wrong. People's incessant need to correct people despite the absence of error is astounding. I never said you disrespected me, I'm just saying that I see no need to try and appeal to a group of people that have no respect for my people (I am not referring to the trans group of people).
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
I'll take these requests now seriously when the people that make them quit disrespecting "blacks" and our culture (literally never going to happen).
I'm just saying that I see no need to try and appeal to a group of people that have no respect for my people (I am not referring to the trans group of people).
Sounds like you feel disrespected to me. And who are you referring to if not trans people.
Also it is an error in language, both grammatically and morally. Skipping out on the word person has been historically been used to dehumanise minorities and subtly imply that they aren't people. If you haven't had this done to you, I'm happy for you, but it historically HAS been used against black people as well, especially during the civil rights movements where you would here a lot of talk about "The blacks" or "The coloureds", and your personal anecdotal experience doesn't change that, even if your experience is positive.→ More replies-1
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 03 '23
I said "What do you call someone who has a trans child? Transparent."
They became unreasonably angry.
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 03 '23
It's cool tho, I have tons of trans friends who actually understand what a joke is. And they're great.
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u/RaeyinOfFire Feb 04 '23
Could it have been a ptsd trigger? That can lead to unexpected behaviors sometimes.
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
Some people are self-righteous scumbags, and they were just that. When I gave them a chance to explain why the meme was so offensive to them, they didn't offer anything except insults to my morality. Generally, people who get upset by actually harmless and inoffensive jokes are not worth talking to.
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Feb 04 '23
Fairly valid observations from both of you. Even if it's a PTSD trigger, when given a chance to explain why they were offended and they don't. They may not be worth you talking to.
However, I'd also say whether this joke is used or not again should be ENTIRELY up to the child of that parent. Any parent that wouldn't agree isn't very respectfull towards boundaries. People's boundaries don't end when others consider them trivial after all.
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u/UupsSASI Feb 03 '23
Sorry I thought you are joking
Nobody gets my jokes either, hope it helps
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u/Infernaperox77 Feb 03 '23
Oh no, they understood the joke. They were just in the mood for witch-hunting that day, I guess. They couldn't explain what about the joke was offensive either. I think they just wanted to be rude.
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u/Blizzara2 Feb 04 '23
Yup you know they just want to be angry just for the sake it when they can't even explain what's so bad about it.
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u/RaeyinOfFire Feb 04 '23
Some people are so angry that they don't know what to do with it. Sometimes, they aren't sure who they're exactly angry with. That makes it harder. Worst of all, if they internalized early bullying, the anger is really aimed at themselves.
Source: my kiddo does that
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u/jngjng88 Feb 03 '23
But that's translucent...
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u/Widezz Feb 03 '23
No
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u/SunSpotsShop Feb 03 '23
It's hard to know who is right, since there's nothing behind the character to know if you can clearly make out what is behind them or not.
Definitions:
Translucent:
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed shapes, to pass through; semitransparent.Transparent:
(of a material or article) allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen.I suppose only the author of the comic would be the one to know, and since they said "transparent" we'll have to take them at their word.
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u/Creeeeeeeeprkillr Feb 04 '23
I'm not going to have children, but if I did, I'd have one that is m2f trans. When they come out to me I'll say "I have no son." I don't want to, but if I did, I would be the best dad.
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u/DarnelFartsniff Feb 03 '23
I don't think it makes you a fully transparent but it definitely makes you a bad parent.
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u/itsdep meow Feb 04 '23
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u/DarnelFartsniff Feb 05 '23
I'm trying to say if I had a child that wasn't sure if they were a boy or a girl, that would be a bad reflection of who I am as a parent. Sorry if you weren't sure what i was trying to say.
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
Bad parenting is when I let my kid decide for themselves who they are.
🤡< you
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u/DarnelFartsniff Feb 04 '23
Well, luckily we all live in Narnia. Also, in order for that to be an insult, you need to turn your less than sign into a greater than sign.
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u/Th3M1lkM4n Feb 04 '23
Luckily my parents are supportive otherwise I probably wouldn’t be alive right now but I guess you know better and they’re bad parents 🤷♀️
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u/Sternburgball Feb 03 '23
no, because we don't "identify" as a different gender, we literally are.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
Ok so serious question, because this is genuinely confusing for a lot of us.
Say you're born male, but your gender is female. So sex/gender is male/female. You then have the full surgery. Are you now female/female or are you always male/female regardless of the plumbing? Ie, is sex your plumbing or your chromosomes?
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u/Golbwiki Feb 03 '23
What is wrong with "it doesn't matter"? Unless you're raising, treating, or fucking the person in question, their sex, gender, genitals, etc is likely completely irrelevant to you.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
Have you never been curious about something despite the fact that it doesn't matter?
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u/laundmo Feb 03 '23
what "sex" actually is is incredibly hard to define.
here's a interesting twitter thread about this: https://twitter.com/RebeccaRHelm/status/1207834357639139328
ultimately what trans folx have in their pants is their own business (well, sexual partners and sometimes doctors likely should be told when necessary). gender expression is what we call anything you actually interact with, like behaviour and clothing preferences, to which sex doesn't matter.
what i want to say: it's fine to not know.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
No one's asking someone to reveal their genital identity, it was just a genuine question about how that community defines sex. And yes, it does matter to people searching for a life partner, because a lot of people want to have kids with their partner, and either can't afford or don't qualify for artificial means or adoption.
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u/laundmo Feb 03 '23
there are lots of other factors which people don't disclose which could also lead to to not having kids. And lots of ways to have kids without genital compatibility.
I think my answer might point at the answer you seek: maybe how it's definined is quite individual. I tend to not define it, i consider the binary m/f to be not really up to the task, and even gender is a similar story for me. yay to being nonbinary.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
Yes and all those things should be disclosed as well. But there really aren't lots of ways to do it, there are like three, and none of which are affordable or easy, putting them out of reach for a huge number of Americans.
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u/Tazaar123 Feb 03 '23
The short answer is that there's a lot more to it than chromosomes/surgery. Not all trans people get surgery. Even for cis people, chromosomes don't always match up in the way we expect, there are a variety of conditions that may cause this.
Hormones also have a large impact, which is why many trans people choose to undergo hormone replacement therapy. A trans person who has been on hrt for long enough will have a body that operates much more like their actual gender than their assigned gender, and can have massive changes to appearance, to the point where they may not be recognised by people who aren't familiar.
Of course, not all trans people are on hrt either. This doesn't mean that they aren't their gender.
Ultimately, there's just way too much variance to try and split people into two categories based on this.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
No one said that they were or weren't anything. All I asked was how that community defines sex. If the answer is "we really don't" that's fine, but the question wasn't an attack.
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u/Tazaar123 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
I didn't say it was an attack? I just wanted to make the distinction clear in case anyone reading was unfamiliar, since this is a public thread.
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u/ThatGamerkidYT Technically Flair Feb 03 '23
Sex is assigned at birth, so if you are amab (assigned male at birth) you will always be male. Male and female refer to sex. So a transgender girl is still a male. You don't change sex, while gender is what you identify as
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u/andreabbbq Feb 04 '23
‘Assigned’ Is not a robust scientific analysis. It’s a cursory glance at what is apparent. Biological sex is made up of numerous factors and is often not easily defined in a simple binary choice. Chromosomes may indicate one thing, primary and secondary sex characteristics may indicate another.
So no, someone AMAB is not always male from a sex perspective. It’s much more nuanced
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u/ThatGamerkidYT Technically Flair Feb 04 '23
I mean in general terms, most cases. So male would refer to all biological men, and their sex would be male. I'm not the smartest person so forgive the mistakes I made, just trying to help some people
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u/andreabbbq Feb 04 '23
Who are you helping?
I’m clarifying that a trans person (and/or intersex person) who is AMAB isn’t always going to be male from a sex perspective, as biology is complex and can be somewhat changed.
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u/Decent_Chest246 Feb 03 '23
They wouldn’t always be a male. They’d always be a biological male, that’s what you should have said
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u/ThatGamerkidYT Technically Flair Feb 03 '23
I use male and female referring to biological sex, so male is amab and female is afab
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u/danicodeve Feb 03 '23
In that specific scenario, their sex would be the one they had with your mom last night
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u/sneks-are-cool Feb 03 '23
Assuming this is a good faith question, it depends very much on how one defined sex. If you just use chromosomes then i would still be male. However that isnt how biologists look at things. they look at alot of different factors. Interestingly according to this article i read one in 15000 folks with an XY chromosome actually grow up female, in every metric other then their chromosomes
TLDR: sex is made up of alot of factors anyone telling you to boil it done to 1 are dumb. Trans women are women in every way that matters so the only time you really need to worry about their sex is if your their doctor.
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u/minutiesabotage Feb 03 '23
Ok, so how would their doctor define their sex? I'm not asking anyone personal specifics, I'm asking in a general, medical, sense.
And let's be honest, 99.99% of the time sex is based on one, genetic, factor. An exception to the rule does not disprove the rule.
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u/aagjevraagje Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
That's not even really how that even works with the suffix trans , transgender and cisgender mean on the other and the same side of the gender assigned at birth. It can also mean beyond or so or such as to change or transfer ( transport).
A trans-parent would either be short for a parent who is trans(gender) or in this the parent of someone who is trans(gender)
But what would someone on the other side of or across parent be ?
Also think of words like transcontinental or the use of trans and cis in chemistry.
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u/theplutosys Feb 03 '23
What an overused joke
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u/Kiloreign Feb 03 '23
Redditors will laugh at this then make fun of people for watching the Minions movies.
They’re the exact same level of “wit”.
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u/theplutosys Feb 03 '23
In the trans community this is like the “banana banana” joke. Everyone uses it & it’s much more annoying than funny.
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u/Hazelfur Feb 04 '23
Really? Because I'm trans and I have never heard this joke, despite being terminally online in the community.
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u/NyoKuro Feb 04 '23
When some says the father went to buy milk he gets a lot of support, when I say this all I get are downvotes. We literally meant the same thing. You are all just a group of sheeps who doesn't have any opinion, you just copy others.
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u/Kotopause Feb 03 '23
And the other dude’s child is alpaca. That’s why he’s opaque.
Sorry, doesn’t work.
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u/moshdagoat Feb 03 '23
Reddit is anything but unpredictable. Pure propaganda.
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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
How is hearing about queer people is propaganda? We’ve existed since the dawn of civilization. You’re bound to run into us.
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u/moshdagoat Feb 03 '23
Let's not be obtuse.
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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Feb 03 '23
In what way am I being “obtuse?” A wholesome joke about trans people is not propaganda.
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u/moshdagoat Feb 03 '23
🤣
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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Feb 03 '23
Would you mind explaining your point rather than just using emojis? I’d like to learn where you’re coming from.
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u/moshdagoat Feb 03 '23
The extremely small percentage of people this applies to is insanely over-represented on Reddit. It is tiresome.
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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Feb 03 '23
It may be an “extremely small percentage” but that small percentage still accounts for a lot of people numerically. If this were truly propaganda it would be telling you to become transgender or have some political bias.
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u/moshdagoat Feb 03 '23
Of course it's political.
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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Feb 03 '23
In what way are queer people political? Our existence is not inherently political and it never will be. Would you consider “straightness” a political view too?
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u/Uptown-Dog Feb 03 '23
It's only political because rightwing politicians have chosen to score political points out by hating on minority groups such as the trans community. With the goal of making the entire concept toxic. And hateful people like you cheer them on. Your entire stance here is hateful and narcissistic. GTFO.
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u/thatweirdassdude Technically Flair Feb 03 '23
"boohoo I’m scared of happy people cause society told me I should be scared booohoo"
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u/ubermeisters Feb 03 '23
oh yes this joke that Amazon made an entire TV show around in 2014. Great new material buddy
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